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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back to truth seekers

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i'm uh very happy tonight because i've

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been following

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well i follow a lot of different people

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who talk about ufos and uap

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and all the goings on and one of them

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we're going to get to talk to

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in person tonight which i'm really

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excited about

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uh he has a wealth of really great takes

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i like his channel as well because

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you know we do long form here you know

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an hour two hour shows he does very

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quick concise

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uh sort of hot takes on different things

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that people are talking about

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i was really impressed with a lot of his

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knowledge and expertise and i wanted to

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bring him here and and have him share

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that with our audience here

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so uh friends we're going to bring in

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our guest

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there we go steven everybody hi

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good to see you there great to be here i

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appreciate you having me on

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yeah uh i have been really impressed

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some of your sort of breakdowns of the

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goings-on and happenings but the first

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question that i really have for you

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because you seem to be

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incredibly knowledgeable about some

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military things and drone technology

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so i wondered if you couldn't share with

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our audience some of your background

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that led you

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into this area sure well first off i

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spent 12 years

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in the united states air force i was not

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a pilot i was basically ground combat

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for folks in the military who know

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security police

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when state side we serve as law

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enforcement when deployed were pretty

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ground combat for the air force like air

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force infantry if you will

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but i had a i had an interesting job i

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was attached to some

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interesting groups in the military

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including jsoc and then farmed out to

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the dea for a little while and

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played with some of the other alphabet

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agencies around um

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that's interesting then most recently

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uh i've i've been working for a uh a

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defense contractor

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that is very prolific in the drone space

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uh building maintaining flying operating

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designing

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integrating uh all sorts of things with

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uh with military drone systems so when i

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when i make posts or talk about uh

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drones uh being able to do things that

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seeing on videos uh it's it's not

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i'm just discounting

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wishful thinking it's because i i know

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that there are things that we have that

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are capable of

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of doing some of this see that is the

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expertise that i think that we're really

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and why i uh sort of gravitated to some

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of the things that you talk about on

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your channel because

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i don't have that insider's view but i

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can do some research and find

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things like you know flight times for

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for military drones

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and it seems to me that there's a lot of

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disinformation and people making these

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like well the flight time was an hour so

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it couldn't have been a drone

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right can you talk a little bit can we

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talk a little bit about flight times

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historically speaking when somebody says

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flight times

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in excess of an hour are not possible

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they are talking about small cheap

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drones that you can get from a hobby

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shop or target or someplace like that

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they're dependent on weight and power

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another nation state or a terrorist

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that's you know tens of millions if not

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dollars that can be invested

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into higher end military technology

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they are notorious for not caring who

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so it is very easy for somebody

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uh or or some organization to purchase

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military-capable drones that have flight

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now i do want to go on record and say

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that not

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everything is a uap but not everything

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isn't a uap as well i am

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fully fully convinced that there is

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something

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otherworldly and non-human that is

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flying in our skies and i am not out to

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debunk

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a hundred percent of everything i am

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just wanting to

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limit the noise yeah and i think you've

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done an incredible job of doing some of

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that especially with your background

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and i want to thank you because i think

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this really is a need for somebody like

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more familiar with these technologies

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like i can research things

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one of the other things i hear people

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say that drives me crazy

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is things like these things defied the

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laws of physics because they did a 90

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degree turn

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and we don't have that kind of

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technology and i found for example

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two different projects that were built

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in the mid-1980s that were sort of

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drones that could make 90-degree turns

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hunt and knock down nuclear missiles

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incoming nuclear missiles

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and those things can make 90 degree

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turns well we have in 1985

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yeah we have we have things that can

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make 90 degree turns and i think

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with the five observables

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five observables i have a hard time

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visible arc

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or radius we don't have that we don't

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have something that can make

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a 90 degree turn without pausing

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and changing direction so if we're

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looking at something that is flying

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through the air and then it does a 90

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we we have that's not even a law of

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physics that's just law of air dynamics

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interesting distinction because i don't

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know with the craft that i failed i saw

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video test flights you know it's kind of

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before they turned

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that footage again but you're probably

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yeah video is deceiving uh they and the

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human eye

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can't can't really we don't have eyes

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that are calibrated to

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judge speed at distance over video

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um so without a radar track or something

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like that it would be very very

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for us to definitively say that an

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aerial object was able to perform a 90

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degree maneuver

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with no arc no radius to a turn and

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no depreciation and speed we do have

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aircraft that can

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really pivot and they look like they

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like they're on rails but even

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even our best tech that depends on the

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they must decelerate

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to or otherwise bank or do something

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quite a 90 degree turn yeah yeah and

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out about nuclear batteries

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that are used in satellite systems and

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then i found some mention of lockheed

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martin experimenting with them

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in early drones that was connected to

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agree with your assessment 100

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if you go to kmart or walmart there's no

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kmart saver

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if you go to walmart and buy even the

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most expensive drone you can you're

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going to get a 20 25 minute flight time

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that's what these people are equating

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these things too and and it's confusing

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the issue

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well it's disingenuous yeah and it's and

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it's and it's

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it always appears to me that these

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statements these blanket statements

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well it had this flight time so it

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couldn't have been a drone

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it's always pushing the alien narrative

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well it it is and and it's problematic

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um

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and i don't know because i'm not them so

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i cannot speak for these people

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i don't know if they're pushing the

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alien narrative because they want to

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steer us

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away from finding out that we have

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tech that we don't know that we have or

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if they're steering us towards an alien

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narrative because

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uh they want increased budgetary funding

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for defense projects based on a threat

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narrative

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or if they are absolute true believers

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that they themselves don't know that we

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have this text so i i don't know

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why they're doing it but i do honestly

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believe like i said before there's

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there's some weird stuff in our skies

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that's not us but at the same time i

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think a lot of this

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is us yeah and and the other thing that

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kind of drives me nuts is that like i'm

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sure that we have great

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intelligence and spies spying on the

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russians spying on the on the chinese

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on iran and whoever we consider an

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adversary

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and and i'm sure that our intelligence

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agencies know

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a good deal about whatever technology

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they have

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or are developing but don't don't you

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think it's naive to say

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to just assume that we know everything

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and it couldn't be they don't have this

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or that like we don't know that they

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didn't make a technological leap right

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well for sure our human intelligence

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capabilities were decimated in the late

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80s and early 90s

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we lost a lot of our human capabilities

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just due to

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internal politics in the united states

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where

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we were trying to build that back i

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don't know the state of affairs now but

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we're relying a lot more

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on technology and intercepts and things

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like that to

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judge the uh uh the the the military

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value of foreign technology

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the problem is that a lot of our

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technology that we use to

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judge what the foreign capabilities are

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they're manufactured overseas they're

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not our own manufacturing

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so we're we're really beholden uh

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it's it's a catch-22 that we're sitting

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in um

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and we also have to look at things like

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our politicians

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that can walk over to the department of

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defense and say

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what is this no way they don't get that

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information so if a politician tells us

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they don't know anything because they've

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not been told anything either even in

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classified briefings

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the department of defense is not going

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to tell the senate

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select committee on intelligence 100 of

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everything

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um just by the nature of what a

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politician is i mean these are the guys

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that used to run the shoe stand down the

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down the uh the street from your house

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and they got elected to congress

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you know and they're when their term is

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up they're going to go back and run that

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shoe store again

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so the system is not going to give them

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access

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to all of the secrets it's just not

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built that way

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yeah and i guess we could we could touch

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on all these different black

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projects because you know that's another

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thing

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especially these california uh off the

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coast of california sightings that have

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been taking place because

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there's trillions of dollars being spent

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on developing black projects

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aerospace projects trillions yes and so

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to me it's not a stretch to think that

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somebody's testing something that's

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being seen

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and there's also to i can't recall the

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name of it but there is

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for sure a a aircraft and drone testing

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uh facility right off the coast of

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california we're

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near where some of these things took

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place it's in palmdale

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it's lockheed martin's skunk works main

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operation site in palmdale california

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there you go which would only be a short

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hop away from the ships that were seeing

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some of these ufos or uaps

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so to me and i always kind of go to

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occam's razor too

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you know i kind of think there's a drone

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testing facility like

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20 miles 10 miles away from where these

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things were seen maybe

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it's drones right yeah but it's it's

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it's it's frustrating to me

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that because i don't know how it works

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right because

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i've asked some people that i know who

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worked in aerospace companies even on

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some secret projects do they tell

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everybody

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we're going to be flying this thing on

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this flight path

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no on this day and yeah that's what i

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got back i got back no

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we're not telling anybody if somebody

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happens to see it

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okay you know we may acknowledge that

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through

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proper channels the way that that

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typically works

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is there will be a uh uh

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a letter of operation or a letter of uh

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authority

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that is given it's negotiated between

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let's say that this is a skunk works

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project so lockheed will negotiate with

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the faa

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to get a certificate of authority to fly

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an experimental aircraft in a very

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specific area at a specific altitude

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at a specific time that's all they're

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going to tell the faa

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that we're going to fly uh something

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and we need a temporary restricted area

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and we're not telling you what it is

401
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could be anything

402
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right limp drone uh the other question

403
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having heard a lot of stuff on your

404
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channel that i wanted to ask you about

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is

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do you know very much about uh anything

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about stealth

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blimps and stealth blimp technology

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because that's another one where i think

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a lot of these so-called tr-3b

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or maybe the phoenix lights case could

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well be attributed to

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these stealth blimp projects that i know

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for a fact were being developed in the

415
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early 80s but we don't know

416
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whatever happened to them they were sort

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of in popular science and popular

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mechanics they were talking about these

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huge

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stealth blimps that could lift you know

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be used to transport

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troops and equipment and yeah there

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are a a number of different companies

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uh boeing believe it or not is one of

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the leaders

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on the the dirigible or blimp

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technologies it's it's not actually even

428
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lockheed in this case

429
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but it would be uh it would be on boeing

430
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but a stealth blimp

431
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is a little bit of a misnomer because by

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and large for the most part

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these things by their own nature are a

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lot more stealthy

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than an aircraft simply because the term

436
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stealth

437
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equates to low visibility and radar

438
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signatures

439
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so a a blimp is as long as it's not a

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a an exoskeleton or a rigid internal

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frame system

442
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it's not going to have a lot of radar

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return because the radar systems are

444
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going to or the radar emissions

445
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are going to pass through the fabric

446
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it's going to show a smaller return

447
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based on whatever is hanging below it

448
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that is reflecting the radar systems and

449
00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:30,720
things like that and then

450
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the you can take it a step further and

451
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you can design

452
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those hanging baskets i call them

453
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baskets but that's where the pods are

454
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where the the troops would be held yeah

455
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but they can be designed uh

456
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with with specific angles to scatter the

457
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radar return

458
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and they can be coated with the same

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type of special coatings that we use for

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the f-117 and the b2 and things like

461
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that so

462
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you can significantly reduce what is

463
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already a

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a small signature for a dirigible yeah

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that's what i think that i was reading

466
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about some time ago that they were

467
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trying to do

468
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sort of apply the same stealth

469
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technology from the stealth bomber or

470
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the fighter to to a dirigible or to a

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blimp

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and and having some success right yeah

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the only thing that you have to keep in

474
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mind though in in

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in something like this is a blimp is

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virtually defenseless

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so if you do have a troop carrier as a

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blimp you're going to have

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an armed support armed aerial support

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that that is

481
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rapid response or in the same vicinity

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uh

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flying in advance and trailing something

484
00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:38,240
like this to maintain uh

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a loft security of of that uh yeah it

486
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was pretty easy to shoot down i could

487
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yeah exactly that's why it was funny to

488
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me

489
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to to read about dirigibles being used

490
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in war

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because i was thinking like geez that

492
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seems like such a huge target

493
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right well back then we didn't have uh

494
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triple a that was uh that was really

495
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able to reach up to to a good altitude

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so

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the the anti-aircraft artillery that we

498
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had back in the day was

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it was very limited in uh in its ability

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to to target and bring something down

501
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yeah well amazing technology and i think

502
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something that could be an explanation

503
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for some of the things that people are

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seeing

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now you know i guess we can talk about

506
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some of these recent uh

507
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photographs and uh video that have been

508
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released

509
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i'm uh i'm underwhelmed and i'm not

510
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impressed

511
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and i'm uh and i'm i'm get i guess i'm

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getting to the point of like

513
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bitterness not bitterness but something

514
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i just

515
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people come out with this stuff and i go

516
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this could be anything

517
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this doesn't move it's completely

518
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unidentifiable based on the data that

519
00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:44,000
you've given us

520
00:20:48,149 --> 00:20:45,760
it could be anything and i don't think

521
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that it moves the

522
00:20:51,270 --> 00:20:49,840
conversation forward at all i don't

523
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:51,280
think there's any benefit other than to

524
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sell a story

525
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:55,840
we we have two very disparate things

526
00:21:01,110 --> 00:20:58,159
talking about the exact same event we

527
00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:01,120
have witness testimony on one hand

528
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:03,600
that is telling us that these objects

529
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are

530
00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:06,240
uh you know there's 14 or 15 of these

531
00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:07,919
objects they're glowing

532
00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:10,400
they're hovering they're coming in and

533
00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:11,679
out of the water

534
00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:14,080
they're doing rapid and instantaneous

535
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acceleration

536
00:21:18,549 --> 00:21:16,880
and then on the other hand we have a

537
00:21:22,630 --> 00:21:18,559
video of a

538
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:22,640
fuzz ball that slowly descends

539
00:21:25,750 --> 00:21:24,880
into the water and it shows us

540
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absolutely

541
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zero of the five observables so the

542
00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:30,880
witness testimony

543
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i i believe witnesses what i

544
00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:36,640
don't believe is that what the witnesses

545
00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:38,159
have been describing

546
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:40,320
is what we have been led to believe is

547
00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:42,480
on the video

548
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:44,720
that's good that's a good breakdown and

549
00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:45,840
also

550
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:47,520
in that particular in that video's

551
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:48,960
particular case i suppose

552
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:50,880
it's really just the word of one person

553
00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:52,640
who's an anonymous source

554
00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:54,799
and you jeremy you can't talk to him or

555
00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:56,640
ask him any questions and i can't talk

556
00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:58,000
to him or ask him any questions we're

557
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:59,440
just supposed to trust the person

558
00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:01,280
bringing the story forward

559
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:02,799
and i guess you know i understand the

560
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:04,559
need for anonymous sources at times

561
00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:06,000
especially

562
00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:07,360
you know and the other thing is that i

563
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:09,120
reached out to several people who were

564
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:10,080
navy

565
00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:14,720
veteran and i asked them

566
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can you go in the command center of a

567
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ship and take

568
00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:21,039
and take cell phone pictures or footage

569
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and then just give it to a reporter

570
00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:24,799
and they were all like that's a good way

571
00:22:28,630 --> 00:22:26,240
to get court-martialed

572
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:28,640
and fired and thrown out of the military

573
00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:29,600
you can't

574
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:32,000
so you know pardon me if i don't trust

575
00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:33,440
the source here

576
00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:35,360
yeah it seems implausible to me that

577
00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:36,880
somebody's gonna risk their entire

578
00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:37,840
career

579
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:41,200
to to put out to share what is

580
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:43,679
essentially not even good evidence it's

581
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:44,640
just a fuzzball

582
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:47,120
you know it's yeah the the the combat

583
00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:48,799
information center on the ship and i was

584
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:49,600
air force

585
00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:52,320
i'm not navy so if there's any naval

586
00:22:56,149 --> 00:22:53,760
folks that are listening to this

587
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:56,159
please feel free to jump into the chat

588
00:23:01,029 --> 00:22:57,440
and correct me

589
00:23:04,230 --> 00:23:01,039
but it is a limited access

590
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:04,240
facility on board a ship you do not go

591
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:04,799
in there

592
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:10,880
and i am fairly damn certain that you're

593
00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:12,640
not going to be authorized

594
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:14,880
to take out a cell phone and record

595
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:17,760
something in real time as it's happening

596
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:21,280
simply because the systems that are

597
00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:24,080
being used in the combat information uh

598
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:24,880
center

599
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:26,720
you don't know what is going to be

600
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:28,640
happening outside of the ship

601
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:30,640
so you're not going to allow somebody to

602
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:32,799
take a cell phone in there and record in

603
00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:33,919
real time

604
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:36,240
because you don't know if you're about

605
00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:37,840
ready to go to war you don't know if

606
00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:40,159
it's one of your own secret technologies

607
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:41,440
you don't know if it's an enemy

608
00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:43,360
combatant you don't know what is being

609
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:44,880
displayed on the monitor

610
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:47,279
therefore it's going to remain in a

611
00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:49,200
classified status

612
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:50,960
the only way that you would allow

613
00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:52,240
somebody to

614
00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:56,080
video that is if it is on a playback

615
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:59,120
after it has already been determined

616
00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:01,679
that it is not a threat not a security

617
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:03,440
risk and that it is a known

618
00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:07,200
entity great so it looks like

619
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:09,919
to me i'm so glad that we we uh we

620
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:11,840
delved into this because

621
00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:13,600
this is what has been bothering me about

622
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:15,279
this latest video i'm going

623
00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:17,760
they're saying it's unclassified which

624
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:19,360
doesn't make any sense

625
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,720
and then they're saying an anonymous

626
00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:22,559
source gave it to them

627
00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:25,120
and one of the i got call it a theory

628
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:26,559
but one of the theories that i have

629
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:28,240
about some of the stuff that is leaking

630
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:30,720
out is that it's training videos

631
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:34,000
to show ufos that have then been

632
00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:35,120
identified

633
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:38,080
and how people can be so quick to say

634
00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:39,600
it's a ufo it's a ufo

635
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:42,559
and then they're using these things as

636
00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:44,000
examples of like

637
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:46,080
here's one that this ship encountered

638
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:47,760
and it turned out to be

639
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:51,600
x y or z well take i mean that's that's

640
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:53,360
an absolute plausible and

641
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:56,159
highly likely scenario especially when

642
00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:56,720
you look

643
00:25:00,310 --> 00:24:58,799
at the uh the senate select committee's

644
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:00,320
uh directive

645
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:02,480
uh for the uaptf report that i think

646
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:04,559
we're what like 40 days 50 days away

647
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:05,520
from

648
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:08,400
release now that directive was not for

649
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:11,279
the uaptf to tell us what they know

650
00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:14,080
the directive was for the uaptf to

651
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:15,120
explain

652
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:17,279
what the procedures are the policies and

653
00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:18,880
procedures for the intelligence

654
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:20,720
gathering and the reporting of these

655
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:21,600
incidents

656
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:24,240
so it's very very interesting that at

657
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:25,200
the same time an

658
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:27,520
ig report comes up that we're getting

659
00:25:30,789 --> 00:25:28,799
these videos that are

660
00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:30,799
being leaked and the navy is saying

661
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:33,679
they're being investigated by the uaptf

662
00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:36,080
well one of the things that the uaptf

663
00:25:39,990 --> 00:25:36,799
does

664
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:40,000
for this this uh this directive is to

665
00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:43,360
explain the process of intel gathering

666
00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:45,919
so now these videos are out there the

667
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,880
uaptf

668
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:48,720
is going to look at them they're going

669
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:50,720
to explain how they got them who that

670
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:51,200
who

671
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:53,360
looked at them what was evaluated and

672
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:55,039
what the final dispensation of these

673
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:56,000
videos are

674
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:58,880
so the video may not be depicting

675
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:00,400
anything

676
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:03,919
wild or crazy it's being or

677
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:06,720
otherworldly or otherworldly it's being

678
00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:07,440
led to

679
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:09,919
make us believe that way just because of

680
00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:12,960
the terminology that the navy uses so

681
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:14,799
you look at corbell's statements he's

682
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:16,320
out there saying that the navy has

683
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:18,799
authenticated these videos

684
00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:21,600
okay so they authenticate the video yeah

685
00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:23,279
and and see to me language is very

686
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:24,559
important exactly

687
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:26,559
people people are people are saying

688
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:28,240
they've authenticated them

689
00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:30,400
right real but that means that the video

690
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:32,000
is not fake it doesn't mean that what

691
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:32,320
the

692
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:40,400
remain unidentified but we still don't

693
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:41,760
know what the hell they are

694
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:44,480
now the other thing i i actually wrote

695
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:45,600
to susan go

696
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,279
uh susan goff me too i got no reply

697
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:51,440
i wrote to her on friday so i'm still

698
00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:53,120
hopeful

699
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:55,360
but i asked basically the same questions

700
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:57,120
that we're discussing right now

701
00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:00,480
and i ask her to specify

702
00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:03,520
what the navy means when they say that

703
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:04,840
the video is

704
00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:07,440
authentic and i'm asking her very

705
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:08,640
specifically

706
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:12,240
does that mean that the navy sanctioned

707
00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:15,440
the taking of the video and sanctioned

708
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:17,440
the release of the video

709
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:20,960
or if by authentic it just simply means

710
00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:24,000
that yes it's a video that was taken

711
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:25,120
with a camera

712
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:27,520
by a human being at some point it's not

713
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:29,200
cgi

714
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:31,360
yeah well i hope you'll come back if you

715
00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:32,240
get an answer

716
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:34,399
you know i i sat there in front of i got

717
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:35,919
to tell you jeremy i sat there in front

718
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:37,760
of my computer for a while

719
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:39,679
and and i wrote i wrote her a list of

720
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:41,279
questions too and but then i was

721
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:42,080
thinking like

722
00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:44,480
you know am i really going to email this

723
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:46,399
woman at the pentagon because like i'm

724
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:46,880
not

725
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:49,360
i i don't know that i consider myself a

726
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:50,720
journalist you know

727
00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:53,440
but then i said i have a show and and i

728
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:55,200
have an audience and they want to answer

729
00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:57,200
these questions so i sent it and we'll

730
00:28:00,149 --> 00:27:59,120
see if i i promise you i'll share mine

731
00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:00,159
if you share yours

732
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:02,640
i'll show you mine if you show me yours

733
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:05,039
oh i've made a promise a long time ago

734
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:07,919
any data that i collect i do not hold

735
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:08,559
back it

736
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:11,279
it goes if if the data that i collect

737
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:13,360
disproves my own personal belief i

738
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:15,039
publish it if it proves my own personal

739
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:16,960
belief i publish it i don't care

740
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:18,640
what the data proves or disproves

741
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,000
because it's data

742
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,480
and everybody deserves the same equal

743
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:24,720
unfettered access to the data

744
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:26,960
um and i do want to say one thing

745
00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:28,720
because i know people get

746
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:31,919
they get so upset when you when you

747
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:34,880
appear to be attacking witnesses i'm a

748
00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:35,520
witness

749
00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:37,440
i saw something that i can't explain

750
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:39,279
back in 1995 they get

751
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:42,480
so upset folks like david fravor

752
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:45,600
uh folks like the female wingmen uh

753
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,520
alex you know these these people these

754
00:28:52,389 --> 00:28:49,679
pilots that are just coming out

755
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:52,399
these folks are out there putting their

756
00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:52,960
lives

757
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:55,200
on the line flying these multi-million

758
00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:56,480
dollar aircraft

759
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:58,240
and doing exactly what they're supposed

760
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:00,799
to be doing and they're not able to

761
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:03,760
visually identify something i believe

762
00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:06,720
them what i'm not having an easy time

763
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:07,760
believing

764
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:10,320
is the information and the data that

765
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:11,520
we're being shown

766
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:15,120
i don't believe it corresponds

767
00:29:18,149 --> 00:29:17,600
yeah i i i would tend to agree with you

768
00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:18,159
and and

769
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:20,399
and that's why i'm i'm frustrated with

770
00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:21,200
some of this stuff

771
00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:23,600
because you know like we talked about

772
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:24,960
this the video

773
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:27,279
and what people uh the videos that we're

774
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:29,360
getting and the witnesses

775
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:32,559
statements they don't seem to to jive

776
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:33,520
very well

777
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:35,360
like one of these things is not like the

778
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:36,640
other i don't and

779
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,320
and it's so it's frustrating to me

780
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:40,559
because it's tantalizing the witnesses

781
00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:42,240
are saying all kinds of stuff and then

782
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:43,919
the video that we get

783
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:47,039
is is nothing yeah

784
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:50,320
it's punk it it shows i mean i

785
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:52,960
mick west love him or hate him uh he's

786
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:54,000
he's kind of

787
00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:56,640
he's doing a search he's raising

788
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:57,279
questions

789
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:59,120
i think he goes a little bit too far in

790
00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:01,440
a lot of things he he does not

791
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:03,760
i've never seen him change his mind i've

792
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:05,840
never seen him take

793
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:08,399
counter points and incorporate them into

794
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:09,440
his theories it's

795
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:11,440
it's either his theory or it's no theory

796
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:13,520
and and i don't like that aspect

797
00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:15,520
um yeah but i do believe that he's

798
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:16,880
performing a service and i don't

799
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:17,919
understand

800
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:20,880
people being angry with him especially

801
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:21,279
if

802
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,039
you have to realize that in some of his

803
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:27,120
debunks he's a hundred percent correct

804
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:29,679
some of those absolutely and then people

805
00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:31,520
are getting mad at him because i guess

806
00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:34,399
he's literally bursting their balloon

807
00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:35,919
whatever you know they want to believe

808
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:37,520
it's aliens they don't like this guy

809
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:38,880
coming along and

810
00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:41,520
and saying not so fast but i do believe

811
00:30:44,950 --> 00:30:43,120
that there's a place at the table for

812
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,960
everyone including him

813
00:30:47,909 --> 00:30:46,480
if we're going to move the ball forward

814
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:47,919
and really find out what this stuff is

815
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:48,720
about

816
00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:50,480
if we're going to apply any kind of

817
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:52,159
critical thinking to this entire

818
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:53,200
phenomenon

819
00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:56,000
we have to have all sides of the

820
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:56,880
arguments

821
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:59,440
we have to look at absolutely everything

822
00:31:02,389 --> 00:31:00,240
um

823
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:02,399
yeah and and yeah i i think he's wrong

824
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:04,000
about the nimitz as well i

825
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:07,120
do as well but

826
00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:10,240
we don't have video we don't have

827
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:13,360
anything from the nimitz that

828
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:17,120
is in line with witness testimony

829
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:20,399
yeah yeah so it's it's just

830
00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:22,640
one of those things it's like uh you

831
00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:24,080
know this is what i'm saying with the

832
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:25,519
frustration because

833
00:31:29,669 --> 00:31:27,760
sometimes i i start reading about one of

834
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,679
these cases or whatever and i say

835
00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:31,360
you know what i should not even read

836
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:33,039
anything about this because

837
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:34,480
it's just we're never going to know what

838
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:36,080
this is there's not going to be a

839
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:37,600
definitive answer given

840
00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:39,760
there's not going to be new data so

841
00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:41,279
we're at an impasse

842
00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:44,799
right well if you look

843
00:31:48,549 --> 00:31:47,120
we have a very short memory we have a

844
00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:48,559
very short memory

845
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:50,159
this is not the first time that we've

846
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:51,600
done this uh

847
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:54,559
it seems like about every 10 to 15 years

848
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:55,679
or so

849
00:32:02,149 --> 00:31:58,880
this ufo flap happens and

850
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:02,159
right after that somebody gets a lot of

851
00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:02,960
money

852
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:05,840
to study something and then we never get

853
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:07,039
the data

854
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:08,799
from their studies i mean the last time

855
00:32:12,549 --> 00:32:10,240
this happened uh

856
00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:12,559
robert bigelow got 22 million dollars to

857
00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:15,440
study it so

858
00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:17,840
yeah i was going to mention that and

859
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:20,399
this ig report that you talked about

860
00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:23,760
yeah because uh it appears that the ig

861
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,960
is going to be investigating uh and

862
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:28,559
there's a lot of confusion about that

863
00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:31,600
too because what does that exactly mean

864
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:33,039
right it just means they're going to be

865
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:36,320
taking a look at how the money was spent

866
00:32:41,669 --> 00:32:39,519
whether they well the initial right or

867
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,679
well or whether they wasted a lot of it

868
00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:43,440
right when the ig gets involved isn't

869
00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:44,960
that generally because of waste and

870
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:46,480
inefficiency and

871
00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:49,600
usually i would say probably about 90

872
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:52,399
of the time uh the ig's investigation

873
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:53,679
now there's a difference because an

874
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:55,279
evaluation is different than an

875
00:33:01,350 --> 00:32:58,399
investigation and currently the ig is

876
00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:01,360
labeling this as an evaluation

877
00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:03,679
so i don't know if it's going to be

878
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:04,480
based around

879
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:08,559
spending my hunch my personal hunch

880
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:11,039
is that at some point in time there was

881
00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:13,600
a senator or a congressman somewhere

882
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:16,000
who got their panties ruffled because

883
00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:17,760
they lost the funding for their nature

884
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:18,480
trail

885
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:20,480
and then they found out that 22 million

886
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:22,080
dollars went to atip

887
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:24,559
and they launched a complaint 10 years

888
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:25,440
ago

889
00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:28,080
about atip and the ig is just now

890
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:30,080
getting around to doing an evaluation to

891
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:31,120
see if it warrants an

892
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:34,480
investigation i could be completely off

893
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:35,919
the mark

894
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,880
i know that recently uh i think today

895
00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:40,399
there was uh i didn't read the whole

896
00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:41,679
thing but it was saying something about

897
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:44,320
the fact that uh lou alessandro himself

898
00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:47,600
initiated a second ig uh

899
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:50,240
investigation i don't know what that's

900
00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:51,120
about

901
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:54,159
or uh or or why

902
00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:57,120
uh so my initial theory on on how this

903
00:34:03,269 --> 00:33:59,919
happened may be completely wrong

904
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:03,279
yeah well you know and and also

905
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:05,360
this this is what i'm saying there's all

906
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:07,120
the this stuff that's

907
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:09,760
sort of it does appear to be like a ufo

908
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:10,399
or uap

909
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:12,480
sort of flat like lots of activity lots

910
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:14,879
of media coverage that we haven't seen

911
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:17,839
before and now there's talk a lot of

912
00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:19,919
talk and speculation about this report

913
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:21,440
that's going to be coming out

914
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:22,960
and and i kind of think that the

915
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:25,040
excitement is not very

916
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:27,520
well justified there's people that truly

917
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,720
believe that the government's going to

918
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:30,480
come out next month and tell us we got

919
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:32,000
the aliens and we've got

920
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:34,879
bodies that right patterson and i just

921
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:36,240
no that's not going to happen

922
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:37,200
i think they're going to give us a

923
00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:39,119
little bit of data and it's going to be

924
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:41,440
it's going to be mostly a nothing burger

925
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:44,960
yeah it i fully believe that for us

926
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:47,440
for us it's going to be a nothing burger

927
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:48,079
because

928
00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:50,240
again if you look at the directive first

929
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:51,919
off it's a directive it's not a command

930
00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:52,480
it's not an

931
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:55,359
order nobody in the military has to

932
00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:56,480
comply

933
00:35:00,790 --> 00:35:00,160
with this report they're requested to do

934
00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:00,800
so but

935
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,560
there's no enforcement there's no teeth

936
00:35:07,349 --> 00:35:04,560
to this and again

937
00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:07,359
the report comes down to is a bifurcated

938
00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:09,040
report there's a classified version of

939
00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:09,599
this

940
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:11,440
that is going to go to senate select

941
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:12,720
committee for intelligence and they're

942
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:14,079
going to get briefed on this

943
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:16,400
then there is an unclassified version by

944
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:17,359
request

945
00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:20,560
that is going to be supposedly a summary

946
00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:22,240
of what the uh the senate select

947
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:24,079
committee is going to receive

948
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:27,040
i've seen these things before i i used

949
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:28,079
to write

950
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:30,240
intel briefings when i was deployed in

951
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:31,760
the middle east that would get

952
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:34,079
uh sent to the jcs and things so i i

953
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:35,200
understand

954
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:38,400
the process behind this um

955
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:41,040
we're going to get we are going to get

956
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:41,680
pretty much

957
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:44,880
a a two paragraph statement

958
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:47,359
that is saying that they did their best

959
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:49,200
waiting all this time for a two

960
00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:50,720
paragraph statement that's all we're

961
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:51,680
going to get

962
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:55,520
probably going to be an extension on

963
00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:57,040
this there's probably going to be a

964
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:58,000
briefing that goes

965
00:36:01,670 --> 00:36:00,160
to the the senate select committee but

966
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:01,680
it's probably not going to be sufficient

967
00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:02,800
the briefing that they get

968
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:04,880
is probably going to be the request for

969
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:06,480
an extension

970
00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:10,160
i don't see anything relevatory coming

971
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:10,560
out

972
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:14,400
of of this uaptf report um

973
00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:17,359
primarily because i don't think the

974
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:19,839
government knows

975
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:22,960
yeah i'm with you on that yeah yeah you

976
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:23,440
know

977
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:24,720
one of the other things that i wanted to

978
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:26,480
ask you about because you

979
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,240
you formerly worked for the government

980
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:30,480
and uh you know the narrative has been

981
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:31,760
for 70 years

982
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:33,119
you know with stanton friedman and the

983
00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:35,359
cosmic watergate so the narrative has

984
00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:37,119
always been that the government

985
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:39,920
knows about what they're seeing and

986
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,560
knows about aliens and is covering it up

987
00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:44,160
and now there seems to be this switch

988
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:45,920
that all of these former letter of the

989
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:48,240
alphabet people that were in ttsa

990
00:36:53,829 --> 00:36:51,599
or other you know efforts

991
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:53,839
are are supposed to be talking now and

992
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:55,680
we're supposed to trust what they say

993
00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:57,359
and i have a real hard time with that

994
00:37:03,589 --> 00:36:59,440
isn't that strange

995
00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:06,230
i just i just don't i mean and to

996
00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:09,200
quantify or to qualify that remark

997
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:12,320
i've done things in

998
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:15,920
in my service that if if i had been a

999
00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:17,440
civilian watching i would have been

1000
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:19,520
shocked

1001
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:21,760
so i understand what the government is

1002
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:22,880
capable of

1003
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,960
uh in in my personal experience and you

1004
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:26,400
can probably multiply that by a

1005
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:28,160
magnitude of a thousand

1006
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:31,200
um to the other things that they've done

1007
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:33,839
so i i don't i don't trust the

1008
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:35,200
government we have

1009
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:38,800
we have testimony uh about operation

1010
00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:40,160
mockingbird

1011
00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:42,160
that and and for your listeners that

1012
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:43,599
don't understand what an operation

1013
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:44,800
mockingbird is

1014
00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:48,160
this was a cia program

1015
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:51,200
where the cia would pay

1016
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:54,320
people to write articles in newspapers

1017
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:56,720
and journals and submit movie scripts

1018
00:38:01,670 --> 00:37:58,640
and do everything that they could

1019
00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:01,680
to try to influence the zeitgeist of the

1020
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:03,440
united states population

1021
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:05,680
that way they could control the process

1022
00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:06,560
of thought

1023
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:09,520
and kind of direct a generation to

1024
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:12,320
specific ideas and thought processes and

1025
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:12,960
we know

1026
00:38:17,589 --> 00:38:15,520
this happened because there is testimony

1027
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:17,599
there was a congressional inquiry back

1028
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:19,200
in the 1970s

1029
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,520
which got the director of the cia at the

1030
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:23,359
time to admit

1031
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:26,240
that they paid people to do this there

1032
00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:26,640
is

1033
00:38:30,829 --> 00:38:29,680
zero documentation whatsoever that says

1034
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:30,839
that this was ever

1035
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:34,640
cancelled yeah yeah and a lot of people

1036
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:36,560
have speculated that a lot of these

1037
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:37,839
players

1038
00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:41,920
ufo celebrities that are out there

1039
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:44,560
are in fact maybe government

1040
00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:46,480
disinformation agents which is

1041
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:48,720
interesting and when people say i'm glad

1042
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:50,400
you mentioned operation mockingbird

1043
00:38:53,430 --> 00:38:51,200
because

1044
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:53,440
when people say oh that's ridiculous i

1045
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:54,720
asked them if they ever heard of

1046
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:56,400
mockingbird or some of the other things

1047
00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:57,920
our government has done my other

1048
00:39:02,950 --> 00:38:58,720
favorite is

1049
00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:05,750
that's when they they ran it they ran uh

1050
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:06,560
they ran

1051
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:09,839
at a house of ill repute and dosed

1052
00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:10,560
people

1053
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:16,710
we have done some very nefarious things

1054
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:19,280
to our own people we continue to do it

1055
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:22,880
um and it's it's it's crazy what we're

1056
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:23,839
doing so

1057
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:28,320
i i without getting too conspiratorial

1058
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:31,359
there is there is something

1059
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:34,800
in our skies there is in my belief

1060
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:37,920
there is an off-world presence or an

1061
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:39,839
ultra world presence or an

1062
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:41,599
interdimensional presence

1063
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:44,640
that is occurring and has been occurring

1064
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:49,200
for thousands upon thousands of years

1065
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:52,400
but they haven't blown us up

1066
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:54,560
and if they haven't blown us up or

1067
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:56,800
destroyed us or done anything else

1068
00:40:02,470 --> 00:39:59,760
nefarious to our civilization

1069
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:02,480
then i do not believe that they are now

1070
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:04,079
magically a threat

1071
00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:06,720
they show up over our nuclear uh

1072
00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:08,800
carriers they show up over our nuclear

1073
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:09,680
power plants

1074
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:12,800
my sighting back in 95 was nuclear

1075
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:15,599
material related

1076
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:18,319
but they don't do anything they haven't

1077
00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:20,560
shut down our carriers we haven't lost a

1078
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:22,319
submarine because of them

1079
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:24,240
our power plants haven't gone offline

1080
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:26,079
there is anecdotal evidence to say that

1081
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:27,920
they've shut down our missiles

1082
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:30,960
but they didn't launch any so

1083
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:34,079
it would seem that these are not

1084
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:36,560
and we would it would seem to me that

1085
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:37,280
the threat

1086
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:40,720
is not something that would require

1087
00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:43,520
20 or 60 or 80 million dollar annual

1088
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:44,000
budget

1089
00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:47,520
for a research group or tens of

1090
00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:49,280
millions tens of hundreds of millions of

1091
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:50,560
dollars in

1092
00:40:54,309 --> 00:40:53,119
increased defense spending i mean if

1093
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:54,319
these things can

1094
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:56,880
shut down our nuclear weapons what the

1095
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:58,640
hell are we going to use to shoot them

1096
00:41:02,710 --> 00:40:59,680
out of the sky with

1097
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:02,720
i think that too and i also always think

1098
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:03,920
with these people that are running

1099
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:06,079
around pushing a threat narrative i

1100
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:07,280
supposed to try to

1101
00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:09,440
get increased funding you know play

1102
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:10,319
money to

1103
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:12,480
hide whatever it is they want but my

1104
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:13,920
point is if these

1105
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:16,960
if these if they truly are you know from

1106
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:19,040
another solar system for example

1107
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:22,160
or from another dimension right that

1108
00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:24,079
means they have technology that is a

1109
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:26,960
million years ahead of us

1110
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,200
ahead of us or something and and they'd

1111
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:31,119
have to have weapons that we could never

1112
00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:32,160
even compete with

1113
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:33,839
you know it would be like they could

1114
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,200
just exterminate us

1115
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:37,200
at the flip of a switch and you know

1116
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:39,359
what funding may not even be a weapon

1117
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:42,480
it may not even be a weapon um

1118
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:44,480
there are there's a lot of hypothesizing

1119
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:46,319
that says that the civilization can last

1120
00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:47,280
that long

1121
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:50,160
and make it past its own great filter

1122
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:51,040
event

1123
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:53,440
then it would be by necessity a

1124
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:54,480
benevolent

1125
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:58,400
society but that doesn't mean that

1126
00:42:01,670 --> 00:42:00,079
they don't have a technology that can be

1127
00:42:02,470 --> 00:42:01,680
used as a weapon i can stab you with a

1128
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:02,480
pencil

1129
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:05,839
weapon

1130
00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:08,160
it's a tool so they may not have

1131
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:09,280
developed weapons

1132
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:11,280
specifically to annihilate earth but

1133
00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:13,200
they may carry technology

1134
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:15,839
that has that capability uh so maybe

1135
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:17,520
they're doing an ionization

1136
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:20,000
uh study and separating hydrogen from

1137
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,880
water and

1138
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:22,560
they happen to have the ability to

1139
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:25,359
evaporate all the oceans on the earth

1140
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:28,160
um not designed as a weapon but you know

1141
00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:28,960
it's you know

1142
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:31,520
things like that so but i don't i really

1143
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:32,880
don't believe

1144
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:36,800
that what is in our skies now poses

1145
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:40,400
an immediate and and pressing

1146
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:43,040
threat to either our civilization or

1147
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:44,640
another's with

1148
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:48,079
one exception if this

1149
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:51,920
falls out of the sky if this falls out

1150
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:53,200
of the sky

1151
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:56,640
china

1152
00:43:01,750 --> 00:42:59,839
or iran and they have the ability to

1153
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:01,760
reverse engineer it or they have the

1154
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:02,880
ability to somehow

1155
00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:06,240
figure out how to use it then then we

1156
00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:09,119
are screwed yeah and we are screwed huge

1157
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:10,160
so the threat

1158
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:13,359
isn't the uap themselves in my book but

1159
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:14,880
it is the possession

1160
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:18,319
of a uap by an enemy state yeah

1161
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:19,920
and you know the other thing i was going

1162
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:21,520
to ask you about is i i

1163
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:22,880
have a problem with people talking to

1164
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,720
absolutes like we talked about

1165
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:26,400
these couldn't be made on earth the

1166
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:28,960
other the other side of the coin is that

1167
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:29,760
i've heard

1168
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:31,680
you know we've got like the greer camp

1169
00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:34,640
saying that all ets are benevolent

1170
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:37,839
and uh that drives me crazy too because

1171
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:40,880
i just can't i can't get my brain around

1172
00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:41,280
making

1173
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:44,079
such a blanket statement right like

1174
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:46,240
maybe some are good and some are bad

1175
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:48,640
right yeah certainly there's got to be

1176
00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:50,480
if there is other species out there in

1177
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:51,200
the universe

1178
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:52,560
some of them are going to be like us

1179
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:54,480
like like territorial

1180
00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:57,040
fight over resources right well i i

1181
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:58,560
think that we can disprove

1182
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:00,880
greer right off the bat because if we're

1183
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:02,800
talking about the phenomena

1184
00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:06,079
and and we're lumping in a little bit of

1185
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:06,800
everything

1186
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:09,599
into the phenomena and take for example

1187
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:10,800
skin walker

1188
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:16,160
whoever happens to be walking around you

1189
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:17,359
don't necessarily

1190
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:19,280
want to be on skin walker when a portal

1191
00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:20,560
opens up because you might just be

1192
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:22,240
getting your arms and legs ripped off by

1193
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:24,319
something that pops out

1194
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:25,839
would be it would definitely not be

1195
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:28,079
benevolent that is not benevolent and

1196
00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:28,800
when i had a

1197
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:31,520
i've had several or actually i'm not

1198
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:32,640
gonna say several because that's

1199
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:33,520
inaccurate i've had

1200
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:36,240
two very long discussions conversations

1201
00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:38,400
with colonel john alexander

1202
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:40,000
he lives right down the road from me

1203
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,000
here in las vegas and uh

1204
00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:44,400
i'm nurturing that relationship but i

1205
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:46,160
asked colonel alexander

1206
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:49,599
if the phenomenon is a terrible thing

1207
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:52,640
and he paused and he licked his lips a

1208
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:55,040
little bit and he thought very carefully

1209
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:56,880
before he answered my question and he

1210
00:45:01,990 --> 00:44:58,160
looks right at me

1211
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:02,000
and he goes the phenomena itself

1212
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:05,520
is not terrible but there are terrible

1213
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:07,520
aspects to it well that's kind of

1214
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:09,280
terrifying too though

1215
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:11,280
yeah and this is this is the guy that

1216
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:12,960
started midge this is the guy that

1217
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:13,839
started

1218
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:15,680
you know studied skinwalker this is the

1219
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:17,200
guy that worked at the los alamos

1220
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:18,000
physics lab

1221
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:21,359
and and knows he knows a whole lot more

1222
00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:23,119
than he will ever say

1223
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:25,520
um but and for him to say that there are

1224
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:27,440
terrible aspects to this

1225
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,720
i think stephen greer can go get ben

1226
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:32,720
yeah i kind of make fun of him i you

1227
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:34,480
know i do i did a parody called dr

1228
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:36,160
stephen greed here

1229
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:38,160
you know because he disclosure ain't

1230
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:39,200
free

1231
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:42,960
right no and i i take people

1232
00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:46,640
absolutely 333.

1233
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:48,640
and you get access to the truth brother

1234
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:49,680
um

1235
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:52,240
you know i i take people to task that

1236
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:53,359
sell

1237
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:55,839
access to information and that's one of

1238
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,880
the things that i did

1239
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:58,400
when i when i started creating the

1240
00:46:01,990 --> 00:46:00,319
osiris as i went public

1241
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:02,000
and i said that whatever the data is

1242
00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:04,000
that i collect i will disseminate it to

1243
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:04,640
the world

1244
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:06,400
oh yeah it don't work for those that

1245
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:08,240
don't know can you explain this osiris

1246
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:09,680
thing because he's got a video

1247
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:11,920
on his this is an amazing thing that he

1248
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:13,359
built

1249
00:46:18,550 --> 00:46:15,920
bad it's cool i'm gonna come there and

1250
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:18,560
drive it around

1251
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:19,760
well let me give you the whole back

1252
00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:21,680
story so because if i tell you exactly

1253
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:23,119
what it is right off the bat it still

1254
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:24,480
won't make much sense

1255
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:27,359
um after my sighting that i had back in

1256
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:28,960
1995 i sat

1257
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:31,680
on this whole experience and then i i

1258
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:32,160
ended up

1259
00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:34,079
through a weird series of events i ended

1260
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,200
up on the tv show

1261
00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:37,440
uh unidentified inside america's ufo

1262
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:38,640
investigation

1263
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:42,000
i was in season two episode three uh

1264
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:43,839
met lou talked to lou hell i spent a

1265
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:45,359
week at lou's house uh

1266
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:49,119
at the beginning of this year um

1267
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:52,319
anyway i got to the point where i

1268
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:53,520
started believing

1269
00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:55,680
convinced myself that we're never going

1270
00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:58,400
to get the actual truth

1271
00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:01,599
from this or any other government so

1272
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:04,079
i started trying to figure out what i

1273
00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:04,640
could do

1274
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:07,680
to find out what the hell is in our

1275
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:08,240
skies

1276
00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:11,359
for myself so i found an organization

1277
00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:11,680
called

1278
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:13,280
sky hub and you can visit them on the

1279
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:15,520
web skyhub.org

1280
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:17,599
and they've built a or they've designed

1281
00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:18,640
i should say

1282
00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:22,079
a a very robust platform that

1283
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,319
will allow you to purchase certain

1284
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:26,400
pieces and parts and electronics from

1285
00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:28,319
amazon and places like that and they

1286
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:29,599
tell you how to assemble it

1287
00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:32,720
cool organization yeah it really is the

1288
00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:33,359
gist of this

1289
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:36,800
is the fact that i have i took my daily

1290
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:38,160
driver i'm not rich

1291
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:41,440
i don't make a lot of money so my driver

1292
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:45,200
was a 1999 land rover discovery 2

1293
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:48,160
a very capable off-road vehicle and i

1294
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:50,160
started drilling holes in the roof of

1295
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:51,760
this thing and i was running

1296
00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:54,240
cat5 ethernet cable and mounting fisheye

1297
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:55,280
cameras and

1298
00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:57,520
drilling more holes and putting 80sb

1299
00:48:03,829 --> 00:47:59,760
antennas on it

1300
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:03,839
which is cool guys insane vehicle so

1301
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:06,480
i created your very own mystery machine

1302
00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:07,440
well it yes

1303
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:08,559
it's kind of like a it's kind of like a

1304
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:10,240
four wheel drive version of ecto one

1305
00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:12,000
from the ghostbusters really

1306
00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:14,960
um so i've i've got this vehicle that

1307
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:15,599
i'm

1308
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:17,680
i cruise around in and i go to hot spots

1309
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:19,520
and i try to find

1310
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:22,000
uh scientific data that would prove to

1311
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:22,720
me

1312
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:26,000
the existence of off-world uh or

1313
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:29,359
otherworldly type of vehicles um

1314
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:31,200
so i've so i've got the osiris and i

1315
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:33,440
forgot where we where i was going before

1316
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:34,000
we uh we

1317
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:36,079
got in i just asked you to explain the

1318
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:37,200
osiris and

1319
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:38,880
building it and its capabilities and

1320
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:40,240
what you're doing with it

1321
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:42,640
yeah so it's one of the things that i'm

1322
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:45,040
i'm doing because i don't believe that

1323
00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:46,559
we're ever going to get a straight

1324
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:48,319
answer a valid answer

1325
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:50,720
and a factual answer from this or any

1326
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:52,079
other government so

1327
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:55,200
i'm trying to encourage armies

1328
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:58,240
of people in any state country territory

1329
00:49:02,630 --> 00:48:58,960
wherever you

1330
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:02,640
are build a sky hub build a device

1331
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:06,079
standardize the citizens ability

1332
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:09,520
to collect data so that we're not using

1333
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:12,000
an iphone 6 or a galaxy 3 or

1334
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:14,160
you know a nokia and everybody has

1335
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:15,440
different cameras and different

1336
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:17,359
processors and

1337
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:19,920
everything's the same with skyhub so you

1338
00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:23,200
can you know how to interpret the data

1339
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:25,040
and i think that you know once we once

1340
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:26,960
we get a couple of thousand of these

1341
00:49:30,549 --> 00:49:28,880
things around the planet

1342
00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:30,559
we're not going to have to depend on the

1343
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:32,240
government to tell us anything we're

1344
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:33,920
going to be telling the government

1345
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:37,359
what we're seeing interesting yeah

1346
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:38,960
and you've got the vehicle to do it

1347
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:40,480
right you've got like you have like

1348
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:42,480
clear cameras and stuff on the roof or

1349
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:48,790
like i said i'm not rich so i am i am

1350
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:50,640
beholden to my budget

1351
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:53,280
uh but i have incorporated i have a

1352
00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:55,119
fully functional weather station

1353
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:58,319
that's integrated into the vehicle now

1354
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:00,960
when uh when i was up with uh with lou

1355
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:02,800
elizondo at his place

1356
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,720
uh you know he and i were talking about

1357
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:06,400
some of the theories that jacques valet

1358
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:07,200
had

1359
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:10,480
in in trying to elicit uh dynamic

1360
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:12,400
responses from uap

1361
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:14,319
uh and and if you don't know jacques

1362
00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:16,880
valet was basically an inspiration for

1363
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:18,559
steven spielberg's close encounters at

1364
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:18,960
the third

1365
00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:20,880
yeah i was aware of that sure yeah and

1366
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:22,640
uh with with the way that the uh the

1367
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:24,400
military was using the flashing lights

1368
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:25,359
and the sound

1369
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:28,319
that's that's a valet theory so what

1370
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:29,040
i've done

1371
00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:31,920
is just recently uh i've incorporated

1372
00:50:35,589 --> 00:50:32,319
some

1373
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:35,599
extremely high intensity led

1374
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:38,640
uh full like 16.9 million color

1375
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,960
spectral lights on the top of this thing

1376
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:42,720
uh and i'm programming them with very

1377
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:44,240
specific patterns so

1378
00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:48,079
in the event that my sensor stack

1379
00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:51,520
pings an unknown i can flip these lights

1380
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:51,839
on

1381
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:54,880
and attempt to signal um to

1382
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:58,079
what end i have no idea um and and

1383
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:58,559
that's

1384
00:51:01,750 --> 00:51:00,640
i'm not stopping there it doesn't it's

1385
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:01,760
neat it's neat

1386
00:51:06,309 --> 00:51:04,480
can i ask you because you know what got

1387
00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:06,319
me started is that i saw

1388
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:08,559
i saw something when i was a child and

1389
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:11,119
now i felt electricity in the air

1390
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:12,960
so you know i always ask people that are

1391
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:14,480
building these kind of things like

1392
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:16,880
the or doing field investigations do you

1393
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:19,040
have some scientific measuring equipment

1394
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:20,960
with magnetometers or

1395
00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:24,960
electrostatic meters to tell well not

1396
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:26,960
not only that but i've i've built a

1397
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,720
faraday cage in the back of my vehicle

1398
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:30,720
which now houses all the electronics to

1399
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:31,760
isolate

1400
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:34,079
uh the electronics from any type of uh

1401
00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:34,960
emp when

1402
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:37,119
when we when i was up in uh in wyoming

1403
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:38,319
at lew's house

1404
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:40,400
i don't know what caused it uh we were

1405
00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:42,400
having a series of synchronicity events

1406
00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:43,280
and some

1407
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:45,440
really really strange things were

1408
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:46,400
happening

1409
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:49,599
uh but uh but the uh the sensor stack

1410
00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:53,200
caught fire at a very inopportune time

1411
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:56,160
uh right in the middle of the uh uh an

1412
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:57,839
incident that we were having

1413
00:52:01,670 --> 00:52:00,160
so i've i've hardened it i've put it in

1414
00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:01,680
a faraday cage

1415
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:05,440
and what i mean just faraday cage will

1416
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:05,920
stop

1417
00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:07,440
any electrical interference from

1418
00:52:12,069 --> 00:52:09,200
damaging or or

1419
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:12,079
taking out an electronics device correct

1420
00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:13,680
people commonly will put i've got a

1421
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:16,319
faraday cage at the cabin

1422
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:18,240
it's part of my apocalypse kit and i

1423
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:21,040
have cbs and a ham radio and a few other

1424
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:23,760
things inside it just in case of an emp

1425
00:52:27,430 --> 00:52:26,160
uh i could go into the cage take those

1426
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:27,440
items out and they would still be

1427
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:28,160
functional

1428
00:52:31,829 --> 00:52:30,160
after an event like that there's a

1429
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,839
comment in the chat from b baker where

1430
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:33,359
he says skyhub is dumb because it

1431
00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:35,280
restricts use of info

1432
00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:36,640
i want i want to talk about that for

1433
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:38,480
just one second it's not

1434
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:42,000
dumb what they've done and

1435
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:44,640
you have to understand that skyhub does

1436
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:46,160
not restrict

1437
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:49,760
the data so what i cannot do

1438
00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:52,880
is i cannot monetize that data

1439
00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:56,319
it can be given away for free i can show

1440
00:53:02,470 --> 00:52:59,359
everybody what that data is i cannot

1441
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:02,480
charge people to get access to that data

1442
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:04,800
so to get access to any of the data that

1443
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:07,040
i've generated with my sky hub

1444
00:53:11,829 --> 00:53:10,079
you have to go to skyhub.org register

1445
00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:11,839
create the profile and then you have

1446
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:14,000
access to all the data

1447
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:16,000
so they're not restricting it their end

1448
00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:18,559
user licensing agreement simply prevents

1449
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:21,440
anybody from monetizing it because they

1450
00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:22,960
don't want to become

1451
00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:25,200
the machine that sensationalizes

1452
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:26,000
something

1453
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,359
that is not accurate um so what i'm

1454
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:31,440
doing is i'm using the sky hub as my

1455
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:32,880
primary point

1456
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:35,280
of information gathering but i'm also

1457
00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:36,400
backing it up

1458
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:39,680
with disparate and ancillary systems

1459
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:43,040
that i can have full control of the data

1460
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:43,839
over

1461
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:47,200
as long as i'm verifying that what i'm

1462
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:49,280
capturing outside of the sky hub

1463
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:51,359
is also it's redundant it matches with

1464
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:53,599
the data inside the skyhub so

1465
00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:56,160
i like what they've done uh if i was a

1466
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:57,200
movie producer

1467
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:58,720
i wouldn't like it because i wouldn't be

1468
00:54:02,950 --> 00:54:00,319
able to pick up a sky hub and

1469
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:02,960
and put it in in in my stephen grier

1470
00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:05,200
documentary

1471
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:07,839
but well then he wouldn't make any money

1472
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:09,040
and that's bad

1473
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:11,200
because praise the cash right and i

1474
00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:13,599
don't i don't make any money off of any

1475
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:14,319
of this

1476
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:17,359
to date as it stands right now i have

1477
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:17,920
not

1478
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:20,480
gotten paid for a single interview i

1479
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:21,040
have not

1480
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:24,240
sold data i don't uh i don't ask

1481
00:54:30,069 --> 00:54:27,839
for uh contributions to to do anything i

1482
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:30,079
had a gofundme for a very short amount

1483
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:30,800
of time

1484
00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:33,359
that helped me build the very first sky

1485
00:54:36,309 --> 00:54:33,920
hub

1486
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:36,319
and then i stopped and i think i raised

1487
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:38,400
i think it was either 400 or 600

1488
00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:41,440
on that and that was absolutely it um so

1489
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:45,839
if if if you see me on nbc or cbs or

1490
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:46,960
something like that

1491
00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:49,359
please understand i am not getting paid

1492
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:51,200
for any of that

1493
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:53,680
yeah good for you i'm trying to get paid

1494
00:54:58,470 --> 00:54:56,640
it's it's i'm breaking even

1495
00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:58,480
well even my youtube channel it's not

1496
00:55:01,349 --> 00:55:00,880
monetized yeah they just turned ours on

1497
00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:01,359
and i

1498
00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:03,280
have decided so far that i'm not turning

1499
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:05,119
ads on because that's really pennies but

1500
00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:06,000
we'll take the super

1501
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:08,400
chats yeah yeah i mean something like

1502
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:10,480
that a phone or a webcam that's what i

1503
00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:10,880
use

1504
00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:13,599
this everything here came from donations

1505
00:55:16,789 --> 00:55:15,440
and super chats i will accept some help

1506
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:16,799
but i'm not trying to make

1507
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,880
a million dollars in fact i'd be really

1508
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:20,400
happy if i could make like

1509
00:55:23,670 --> 00:55:22,880
taco bell wages that's a goal you know

1510
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:23,680
if if i could

1511
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:25,440
have a part-time job i hate i might as

1512
00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:27,040
well have a part-time job i like and

1513
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:29,599
just some show business 72 is in live

1514
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:31,280
chat saying that somebody posted to

1515
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,400
their channel

1516
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:34,559
a mere truth seeker stream so let me

1517
00:55:37,750 --> 00:55:36,079
know who's doing that because i don't

1518
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:37,760
know that i've given anybody permission

1519
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:38,960
to uh

1520
00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:42,240
to simulcast our stream tonight yeah

1521
00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:44,240
yeah stuff like stuff like that bugs me

1522
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,440
but i will say that

1523
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:47,520
you know if if i could do this and pay

1524
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:49,760
my mortgage i would do this but i would

1525
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:53,680
have to figure out a way that would

1526
00:56:00,069 --> 00:55:57,200
force me to ensure the public

1527
00:56:00,390 --> 00:56:00,079
that the money is not affecting the data

1528
00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:00,400
in

1529
00:56:05,270 --> 00:56:03,040
any way shape or form and and because i

1530
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:05,280
haven't figured out how to do that yet

1531
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:07,680
i'm i'm not i'm not getting paid for

1532
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:10,160
this i mean hell i just broke my dslr

1533
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:10,880
camera

1534
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:13,119
the other day i broke a 600 lens to be

1535
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:15,040
exact

1536
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:16,559
you could just see when that thing was

1537
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:18,079
going down you're like oh

1538
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:20,480
no before it even hit right it made me

1539
00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:22,240
sick to my stomach

1540
00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:25,520
uh so you know i'm i'm not i'm out 600

1541
00:56:28,789 --> 00:56:26,079
bucks

1542
00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:28,799
and that comes out of my pocket um but

1543
00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:29,680
it's

1544
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:35,599
of having money that's affecting a

1545
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:36,720
narrative

1546
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:39,440
and and just to clarify on this and

1547
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:40,640
expand on it

1548
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:44,079
i am involved in a film production

1549
00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:48,000
um but the film production i am also

1550
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:51,280
not getting paid a dime other than

1551
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:54,240
what sag requires to be paid as a per

1552
00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:55,040
diem

1553
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:58,000
which and i will tell you straight up 40

1554
00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:58,640
dollars

1555
00:57:01,990 --> 00:57:00,960
per day yeah i did some acting so i was

1556
00:57:04,309 --> 00:57:02,000
just going to say

1557
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:04,319
the minimum sag per diem is nothing it's

1558
00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:05,920
yeah yeah it comes your

1559
00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:08,079
lunch if you're lucky you know yeah so

1560
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:09,359
they're paying for my experience people

1561
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:10,640
don't realize this like

1562
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:12,160
what a lot of people don't realize they

1563
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:13,680
see people on television shows on the

1564
00:57:17,109 --> 00:57:15,359
history channel and stuff

1565
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:17,119
you know like a lot of these guys are

1566
00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:19,280
doing it for free like there's a lot of

1567
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:20,559
guests on even ancient

1568
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:22,559
aliens have said i'm sure i heard

1569
00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:24,160
richard dolan say that he doesn't get

1570
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:26,000
paid to be on ancient aliens

1571
00:57:30,069 --> 00:57:27,680
but it's good for his book sales or

1572
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:30,079
whatever so he does it for free

1573
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:32,799
so yeah yeah and i i haven't written a

1574
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:33,520
book

1575
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:34,880
that i don't have a i don't have

1576
00:57:37,589 --> 00:57:36,480
anything to pimp or promote or anything

1577
00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:37,599
like that i

1578
00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:40,559
i built the osiris and i'm doing this

1579
00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:41,119
because

1580
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:44,160
i saw something back in 1995

1581
00:57:48,549 --> 00:57:48,000
that defies any understanding that i

1582
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:48,559
have

1583
00:57:54,069 --> 00:57:51,839
of either aerodynamics or physics

1584
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:54,079
nobody has an answer for me that is a

1585
00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:55,920
valid answer that can

1586
00:58:01,349 --> 00:57:59,040
say oh it was ours or it wasn't

1587
00:58:03,109 --> 00:58:01,359
ours and it wasn't ours but it was this

1588
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:03,119
uh nobody can tell me

1589
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:06,160
so so i i want to

1590
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:08,480
i want to find out what the hell it was

1591
00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:10,000
that i saw and what the hell everybody

1592
00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:11,119
else is seeing

1593
00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:13,359
and i think that you know doing things

1594
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:15,359
like this and doing citizen science and

1595
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:16,480
gathering

1596
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:19,520
actionable intelligence in a way that

1597
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:21,520
you know 10 or 15 years ago the united

1598
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:23,200
states government would have loved the

1599
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:24,160
sensors

1600
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:27,359
that are in my osiris but now i have

1601
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:28,720
them and they've got something better

1602
00:58:31,510 --> 00:58:30,000
but

1603
00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:31,520
you know we're we're getting to the

1604
00:58:36,230 --> 00:58:33,200
point now where

1605
00:58:37,349 --> 00:58:36,240
the citizenry can do what the u.s

1606
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:37,359
government did

1607
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,559
20 years ago now walter bosley is here

1608
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:42,480
in the live chat and he says i'm doing a

1609
00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:42,880
tv

1610
00:58:46,470 --> 00:58:45,359
gig this weekend contract explicitly

1611
00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:46,480
states that

1612
00:58:50,470 --> 00:58:48,799
i do not get paid only lodging food and

1613
00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:50,480
transportation yeah so

1614
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:52,160
you know and listen i i'm just to be

1615
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:53,920
clear i have no problem with anybody

1616
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:56,640
taking money or but there seems to be an

1617
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:57,920
extreme

1618
00:59:01,829 --> 00:58:59,680
that some of these guys go to it's

1619
00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:01,839
always by my latest course

1620
00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:04,799
even though you know and the promises we

1621
00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:06,559
just covered david wilcock is promising

1622
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:09,280
people's superpowers

1623
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:12,079
he's in the pitch video he says if you

1624
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:13,440
take his course you're going to be able

1625
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:14,319
to levitate

1626
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:16,880
telekinesis you know well then you got

1627
00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:18,000
nick pope going out there

1628
00:59:20,950 --> 00:59:19,520
and saying that you know for 40 bucks

1629
00:59:23,829 --> 00:59:20,960
you get to speak to him for like eight

1630
00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:23,839
minutes one-on-one digitally

1631
00:59:27,030 --> 00:59:26,079
if anybody wants to talk to me first off

1632
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:27,040
why

1633
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:30,000
in a second i'm accessible as hell man

1634
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:31,680
i'm not gonna charge anybody 40 bucks to

1635
00:59:35,589 --> 00:59:33,839
get my bad advice no i think it was four

1636
00:59:36,309 --> 00:59:35,599
minutes you get to talk to him for four

1637
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:36,319
minutes

1638
00:59:40,309 --> 00:59:39,280
50 so i joked on twitter that if anybody

1639
00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:40,319
wants to pay 50

1640
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:42,000
i'll talk to him for eight for eight

1641
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:44,720
minutes yeah so i'm a bargain right yeah

1642
00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:46,000
i'm an open book too like

1643
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:48,079
if somebody really wants to talk to me

1644
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:50,480
my dms are open my facebook is public

1645
00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:51,119
profile

1646
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:53,520
people can get to me or they can email

1647
00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:54,640
me at truthseekershow

1648
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:57,440
gmail.com and i reply to most people i

1649
01:00:02,230 --> 00:59:59,440
mean some of the nutters i don't

1650
01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:02,240
you know like i get some crazy strange

1651
01:00:07,349 --> 01:00:04,319
emails doing this show for sure

1652
01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:07,359
yeah yeah uh burger king customer uh is

1653
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:08,880
that question for me or is that question

1654
01:00:12,069 --> 01:00:10,480
for somebody else oh i'm sorry what did

1655
01:00:14,549 --> 01:00:12,079
he ask

1656
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:14,559
what exactly or what did he see exactly

1657
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:15,599
has he told

1658
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:18,000
the story already i don't know if he's

1659
01:00:23,109 --> 01:00:20,079
asking me yeah he's told my story

1660
01:00:24,789 --> 01:00:23,119
mine is is on an episode of my previous

1661
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:24,799
podcast called the midnight hour it's

1662
01:00:27,990 --> 01:00:26,400
called encounter in the forest and i'll

1663
01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:28,000
put a link to mine in the description

1664
01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:30,000
because it's kind of a look it's kind of

1665
01:00:33,750 --> 01:00:31,040
a long story

1666
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:33,760
but briefly i saw something in the woods

1667
01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:35,520
just above the tree lines it was

1668
01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:38,559
elliptical saucer shapes metal

1669
01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:41,200
dull gray i thought electrostatic

1670
01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:42,000
charges

1671
01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:44,640
i saw animals running out of the forest

1672
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:45,599
towards me

1673
01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:48,240
away from this object and it was so

1674
01:00:52,069 --> 01:00:49,760
close that i could feel like i could

1675
01:00:52,630 --> 01:00:52,079
climb a tree and smack it on the bottom

1676
01:00:54,309 --> 01:00:52,640
of it

1677
01:00:56,630 --> 01:00:54,319
it happened for a while and then it

1678
01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:56,640
bolted off and that started me down this

1679
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:58,480
rabbit hole

1680
01:01:02,789 --> 01:01:00,880
every book every video you know it's

1681
01:01:04,309 --> 01:01:02,799
this insatiable and i don't know why but

1682
01:01:07,510 --> 01:01:04,319
you know when you have that kind of

1683
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:07,520
experience for me i have this insatiable

1684
01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:10,880
need to know what i saw yeah yeah

1685
01:01:16,549 --> 01:01:14,240
that very similar situation with me

1686
01:01:18,549 --> 01:01:16,559
i was i was in the military i was

1687
01:01:19,829 --> 01:01:18,559
deployed the country of jordan my story

1688
01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:19,839
is told on

1689
01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:22,319
on season 2 episode 3 of the the

1690
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:24,799
unidentified tv show and

1691
01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:26,400
i think i've heard this yeah i've seen

1692
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:28,799
i've seen this great story

1693
01:01:31,829 --> 01:01:30,880
a host of other podcasts but to be brief

1694
01:02:12,230 --> 01:01:31,839
i

1695
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:12,240
to a

1696
01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:14,559
non-allegiant russian general and trade

1697
01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:16,559
them a bottle of vodka for a warhead i

1698
01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:17,920
am not making that up

1699
01:02:24,549 --> 01:02:21,200
that absolutely happened um so

1700
01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:24,559
the short story is we recovered a uh a

1701
01:02:27,829 --> 01:02:25,839
nuclear weapon

1702
01:02:29,589 --> 01:02:27,839
and we were guarding it in the middle of

1703
01:02:32,870 --> 01:02:29,599
the jordanian desert

1704
01:02:35,589 --> 01:02:32,880
and uh one night that that i was there

1705
01:02:37,750 --> 01:02:35,599
i was watching with night vision goggles

1706
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:37,760
and i saw something that

1707
01:02:42,789 --> 01:02:40,240
it just it wasn't right uh it was able

1708
01:02:43,910 --> 01:02:42,799
to go from horizon to horizon with a 90

1709
01:02:46,549 --> 01:02:43,920
degree turn

1710
01:02:48,309 --> 01:02:46,559
zero arc zero radius no depreciation and

1711
01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:48,319
speed whatsoever

1712
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:51,200
it started at my my 12 o'clock came up

1713
01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:53,280
to my top dead center and shot off to my

1714
01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:54,000
left

1715
01:02:57,430 --> 01:02:56,240
uh like i said horizon horizon in under

1716
01:03:00,150 --> 01:02:57,440
two seconds

1717
01:03:01,349 --> 01:03:00,160
and it would repeat over and over and

1718
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:01,359
over again

1719
01:03:07,750 --> 01:03:04,720
um and it it wigged me out um

1720
01:03:09,990 --> 01:03:07,760
it's just not something that uh wow

1721
01:03:11,589 --> 01:03:10,000
that uh danny hogan is asking this is a

1722
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:11,599
good question if you found out that what

1723
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:13,200
you saw was really just some government

1724
01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:15,280
secret craft not ufo related would that

1725
01:03:19,029 --> 01:03:16,000
kill some of your

1726
01:03:19,910 --> 01:03:19,039
passion for this work i don't know i i

1727
01:03:23,349 --> 01:03:19,920
would tend to say

1728
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:23,359
no because here here's the thing i

1729
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:26,640
i am not a pilot now i used to fly

1730
01:03:30,950 --> 01:03:28,480
uh civilian aircraft little single

1731
01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:30,960
engine pieces of crap like cessna 152 or

1732
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:32,319
172's

1733
01:03:36,470 --> 01:03:34,720
um and and to be honest i wasn't i

1734
01:03:37,029 --> 01:03:36,480
wasn't prolific at it i only have you

1735
01:03:38,870 --> 01:03:37,039
know

1736
01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:38,880
a few hundred hours of flight time as

1737
01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:41,200
pilot in command but i could fly

1738
01:03:45,910 --> 01:03:43,680
a single engine aircraft so i understood

1739
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:45,920
the basics of aerodynamics

1740
01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:53,029
it didn't use aerodynamics

1741
01:03:58,309 --> 01:03:56,319
uh and aerodynamic principles for flight

1742
01:04:01,430 --> 01:03:58,319
control

1743
01:04:05,190 --> 01:04:01,440
so if it was a government secret craft

1744
01:04:08,069 --> 01:04:05,200
that is technology that to date

1745
01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:08,079
we don't know that we have yeah so i

1746
01:04:12,390 --> 01:04:09,200
think that

1747
01:04:16,390 --> 01:04:12,400
would be really upset at

1748
01:04:18,150 --> 01:04:16,400
is 24 years ago was 1995

1749
01:04:19,829 --> 01:04:18,160
and if we had the technology that could

1750
01:04:23,910 --> 01:04:19,839
do what i saw happen

1751
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:23,920
24 years ago what do we have now

1752
01:04:28,390 --> 01:04:27,039
and what could we be doing for good with

1753
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:28,400
the technology

1754
01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:30,960
that instead were weaponizing so my

1755
01:04:34,309 --> 01:04:32,480
curiosity wouldn't be temp

1756
01:04:36,309 --> 01:04:34,319
wouldn't be tempered but it would

1757
01:04:39,589 --> 01:04:36,319
certainly be redirected

1758
01:04:42,150 --> 01:04:39,599
yeah rodrigo has a great

1759
01:04:44,309 --> 01:04:42,160
question he asked jeremy did you feel

1760
01:04:45,910 --> 01:04:44,319
that it was a solid machine or perhaps a

1761
01:04:49,510 --> 01:04:45,920
light projection

1762
01:04:53,589 --> 01:04:49,520
um at the time i was

1763
01:04:55,510 --> 01:04:53,599
24 25 years old a chain smoking

1764
01:04:57,990 --> 01:04:55,520
cigarettes sitting on top of a sand dune

1765
01:04:59,750 --> 01:04:58,000
in the middle east not really

1766
01:05:01,430 --> 01:04:59,760
comprehending how the hell i had gotten

1767
01:05:03,190 --> 01:05:01,440
there to begin with so

1768
01:05:05,589 --> 01:05:03,200
i don't know if that thought had really

1769
01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:05,599
crossed my mind i believe that because

1770
01:05:08,309 --> 01:05:06,160
of

1771
01:05:09,430 --> 01:05:08,319
the way that i saw it i was using night

1772
01:05:13,029 --> 01:05:09,440
vision goggles

1773
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:13,039
and uh and and everything i think that

1774
01:05:16,710 --> 01:05:14,799
if i was to see it again in the same

1775
01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:16,720
circumstance i would assume

1776
01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:19,200
that it would be a solid machine um the

1777
01:05:23,750 --> 01:05:20,480
night vision goggles

1778
01:05:26,789 --> 01:05:23,760
would pick up uh even the smallest

1779
01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:26,799
uh beams of light even if they're ir

1780
01:05:30,069 --> 01:05:28,960
and i would have been able to see a a

1781
01:05:31,829 --> 01:05:30,079
projection

1782
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:31,839
uh with the night vision goggles or at

1783
01:05:34,829 --> 01:05:33,200
least i would assume that i would have

1784
01:05:36,710 --> 01:05:34,839
seen a projection with the night vision

1785
01:05:38,069 --> 01:05:36,720
goggles you know people have a lot of

1786
01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:38,079
great comments the materials weren't

1787
01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:40,000
around then the principal is barely here

1788
01:05:42,950 --> 01:05:40,880
now

1789
01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:42,960
yeah i've often thought that what i saw

1790
01:05:47,270 --> 01:05:44,319
because where i

1791
01:05:49,589 --> 01:05:47,280
had my sighting was like literally a

1792
01:05:52,630 --> 01:05:49,599
mile from mcguire air force base

1793
01:05:53,510 --> 01:05:52,640
oh wow but i had known having watched my

1794
01:05:55,510 --> 01:05:53,520
father was sort of an

1795
01:05:57,430 --> 01:05:55,520
aviation buff and he used to bore me my

1796
01:05:59,270 --> 01:05:57,440
brother to tears he would drive us to

1797
01:06:00,630 --> 01:05:59,280
the front of the runways

1798
01:06:03,029 --> 01:06:00,640
there was like a little place you could

1799
01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:03,039
park this is before 9 11.

1800
01:06:06,309 --> 01:06:04,640
they've closed the base off now and you

1801
01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:06,319
can't see anything but right

1802
01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:08,079
you used to be able to go to the base

1803
01:06:10,549 --> 01:06:09,359
and my father would just sit there and

1804
01:06:13,750 --> 01:06:10,559
we would just watch like

1805
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:13,760
c-130s take off for five hours and land

1806
01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:16,240
and to me the the most exciting thing

1807
01:06:20,789 --> 01:06:17,760
that they had there was training

1808
01:06:22,549 --> 01:06:20,799
aircraft which was f4 phantoms

1809
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:22,559
one of my favorite airplanes yeah but

1810
01:06:26,069 --> 01:06:23,920
it's like that they

1811
01:06:27,990 --> 01:06:26,079
to me i discounted it could have come

1812
01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:28,000
from mcguire because what i saw was

1813
01:06:33,829 --> 01:06:30,720
super high tech and amazing and they had

1814
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:33,839
ancient aircraft and cargo planes mostly

1815
01:06:36,950 --> 01:06:35,039
their support

1816
01:06:38,309 --> 01:06:36,960
i believe that they're like a support

1817
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:38,319
base you know in other words they're

1818
01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:40,799
flying supplies over to desert storm 24

1819
01:06:45,910 --> 01:06:43,839
7 or personnel or whatever not very

1820
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:45,920
exciting to me so i discounted it that

1821
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:47,839
it could have come off the base but

1822
01:06:52,309 --> 01:06:49,680
the fact that it happened a mile from an

1823
01:06:52,950 --> 01:06:52,319
air base a military air base has always

1824
01:06:54,549 --> 01:06:52,960
made me think

1825
01:06:56,069 --> 01:06:54,559
maybe they were testing something or

1826
01:06:59,430 --> 01:06:56,079
maybe whatever

1827
01:07:01,750 --> 01:06:59,440
you know we we have a lot more

1828
01:07:02,630 --> 01:07:01,760
than the normal population base the

1829
01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:02,640
united states

1830
01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:05,039
will ever know that we have and and one

1831
01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:07,039
of the things i've been taken to task

1832
01:07:10,630 --> 01:07:08,000
for it might

1833
01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:10,640
i the vitriol that i have received in my

1834
01:07:15,109 --> 01:07:11,520
opinion i've seen

1835
01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:15,119
some of this on twitter god oh my god

1836
01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:18,559
i'm not discounting that uap exists

1837
01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:20,559
what i'm doing is i'm putting forth

1838
01:07:25,829 --> 01:07:22,400
prosaic explain

1839
01:07:26,710 --> 01:07:25,839
possible explanations that are prosaic

1840
01:07:29,750 --> 01:07:26,720
in nature

1841
01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:29,760
that could account for the data that

1842
01:07:34,309 --> 01:07:31,760
we're seeing on the video

1843
01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:34,319
i am not attempting to counter manned or

1844
01:07:38,309 --> 01:07:34,799
unders

1845
01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:38,319
or or uh undercut witness testimony

1846
01:07:43,349 --> 01:07:40,880
because i believe the witnesses but what

1847
01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:43,359
we're seeing what were being released to

1848
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:45,119
us or leaked to us

1849
01:07:48,710 --> 01:07:47,680
is not what's on the witness testimony

1850
01:07:52,069 --> 01:07:48,720
and anything

1851
01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:52,079
to date actually everything to date

1852
01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:55,280
that has been on a video can be

1853
01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:56,480
replicated

1854
01:08:03,750 --> 01:08:00,000
easily with prosaic known

1855
01:08:06,630 --> 01:08:03,760
technology even to the point we do have

1856
01:08:08,309 --> 01:08:06,640
flying submarines we have yeah i was

1857
01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:08,319
going to mention that we uh

1858
01:08:11,829 --> 01:08:10,160
that's another thing that they say i've

1859
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:11,839
heard jeremy corbell say

1860
01:08:14,950 --> 01:08:13,680
it could have been earth made technology

1861
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:14,960
because nobody on earth has that

1862
01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:16,799
technology and i found three

1863
01:08:21,030 --> 01:08:19,839
examples of so-called trans medium craft

1864
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:21,040
developed by

1865
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:23,520
uh lockheed and a few other companies

1866
01:08:26,309 --> 01:08:24,400
yeah um

1867
01:08:27,829 --> 01:08:26,319
and these are a few prototypes and they

1868
01:08:30,789 --> 01:08:27,839
had concept videos

1869
01:08:31,269 --> 01:08:30,799
and maybe not flight videos yeah so

1870
01:08:32,870 --> 01:08:31,279
somebody

1871
01:08:34,870 --> 01:08:32,880
argued with me and said that's just an

1872
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:34,880
animation it was a concept while they

1873
01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:36,480
were developing it

1874
01:08:40,070 --> 01:08:38,880
to visualize it and get funding for it

1875
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:40,080
they make these

1876
01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:43,920
the military and go

1877
01:08:47,349 --> 01:08:45,440
isn't that neat wouldn't you like to

1878
01:08:49,030 --> 01:08:47,359
have that capability we could build it

1879
01:08:49,749 --> 01:08:49,040
for you for a few trillion dollars and

1880
01:08:56,709 --> 01:08:49,759
then you get

1881
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:59,110
craft that can fly both in the air and

1882
01:09:05,030 --> 01:08:59,839
in

1883
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:05,040
missiles

1884
01:09:08,709 --> 01:09:07,359
that's a trans medium crash medium craft

1885
01:09:10,709 --> 01:09:08,719
yeah it comes out of the water and it

1886
01:09:12,309 --> 01:09:10,719
flies in that and it flies in the air

1887
01:09:13,990 --> 01:09:12,319
but there's statements again it's like

1888
01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:14,000
these generalized statements when i hear

1889
01:09:17,110 --> 01:09:14,560
that stuff

1890
01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:17,120
just it irks me and drives me nuts like

1891
01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:17,920
did you even

1892
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:20,400
google to see if we have if anybody on

1893
01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:22,080
earth has that technology and

1894
01:09:27,110 --> 01:09:24,319
and by the way how if if we in the

1895
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:27,120
united states i found three projects

1896
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:29,120
then that certainly means there's

1897
01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:31,120
probably three russian and three chinese

1898
01:09:36,070 --> 01:09:32,480
projects just like it

1899
01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:36,080
or or with similar capabilities

1900
01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:38,640
and it's sort of this naive you know

1901
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:39,440
ignorance

1902
01:09:43,030 --> 01:09:41,520
to to act like you know all the

1903
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:43,040
technology on earth

1904
01:09:47,030 --> 01:09:45,040
because you you study you know i don't

1905
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:47,040
know aliens and ufos

1906
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:48,719
but it's the narrative that they push

1907
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:51,120
it's like it's not well it's because

1908
01:09:55,270 --> 01:09:53,440
our technology nobody on earth has this

1909
01:09:58,470 --> 01:09:55,280
so they're pushing this narrative

1910
01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:58,480
well it's because we have people we have

1911
01:10:01,910 --> 01:09:59,840
people that have come

1912
01:10:03,750 --> 01:10:01,920
from the highest echelons of the united

1913
01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:03,760
states government that are saying the

1914
01:10:08,630 --> 01:10:05,360
same thing

1915
01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:08,640
and instead of people listening

1916
01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:11,760
to these higher ups and saying

1917
01:10:15,910 --> 01:10:13,760
well that doesn't sound quite right i'm

1918
01:10:17,830 --> 01:10:15,920
going to do a little research on my own

1919
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:17,840
they just parrot back the same

1920
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:18,960
information

1921
01:10:24,790 --> 01:10:22,320
and believe without question what their

1922
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:24,800
former government official has told them

1923
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:25,440
and

1924
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:30,560
i can show you because i've posted it on

1925
01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:31,199
twitter

1926
01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:33,440
at least three times over the past four

1927
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:34,960
or five months

1928
01:10:41,430 --> 01:10:38,320
we have a drone

1929
01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:41,440
shaped like a triangle that is painted

1930
01:10:44,950 --> 01:10:42,480
black

1931
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:44,960
that will be launched from a submarine

1932
01:10:48,950 --> 01:10:45,840
and shoot

1933
01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:48,960
out of the water we have it it's called

1934
01:10:52,070 --> 01:10:51,280
the coromont it's named after a diving

1935
01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:52,080
sea bird

1936
01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:54,800
and it was created there's a fourth

1937
01:10:57,189 --> 01:10:56,640
example then because i didn't find that

1938
01:11:00,550 --> 01:10:57,199
one

1939
01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:00,560
yeah it's on my twitter i mean it's

1940
01:11:04,070 --> 01:11:03,679
it it was canceled in let me sorry it

1941
01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:04,080
was

1942
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:07,520
cancelled in 2008

1943
01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:10,960
now when something is in production

1944
01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:14,560
and it becomes cancelled it's because

1945
01:11:21,189 --> 01:11:18,000
something better more capable

1946
01:11:23,270 --> 01:11:21,199
yes they got an even better one now yeah

1947
01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:23,280
so they have a better one now i thought

1948
01:11:26,870 --> 01:11:24,560
too that maybe we could take

1949
01:11:28,870 --> 01:11:26,880
a little bit of time just to talk about

1950
01:11:29,510 --> 01:11:28,880
the media and it seems to me that the

1951
01:11:32,709 --> 01:11:29,520
media

1952
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:32,719
keeps getting things wrong and and they

1953
01:11:35,669 --> 01:11:33,600
keep doing this

1954
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:35,679
stuff this also drives me crazy these

1955
01:11:41,189 --> 01:11:38,320
clip click bait titles

1956
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really and you know the the best example

1957
01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:42,800
i could think of is this story about

1958
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israeli space minister who said aliens

1959
01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:46,080
are real

1960
01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:48,960
and there's a galactic council and space

1961
01:11:52,229 --> 01:11:49,520
lasers

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yeah and so all these media outlets ran

1963
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:53,440
with that story

1964
01:11:56,950 --> 01:11:55,120
that an israeli space minister said

1965
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:56,960
aliens are real trump knows about it

1966
01:12:00,229 --> 01:11:58,400
there's a galactic council

1967
01:12:02,630 --> 01:12:00,239
all these different things you know

1968
01:12:04,709 --> 01:12:02,640
president eisenhower met with aliens

1969
01:12:06,550 --> 01:12:04,719
and we had treaties all these different

1970
01:12:08,550 --> 01:12:06,560
things that the media printed

1971
01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:08,560
and then it turned out that that guy

1972
01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:10,000
said

1973
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:13,679
repeating what his granddaughter told

1974
01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:14,800
him that laura

1975
01:12:18,630 --> 01:12:16,960
eisenhower told him which is not a

1976
01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:18,640
credible source of information unless

1977
01:12:22,870 --> 01:12:19,199
you

1978
01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:22,880
um some kind of uh

1979
01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:26,560
you know demon portal on saturn that's

1980
01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:28,480
sucking our negative energy and we have

1981
01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:29,360
to you know

1982
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:31,520
it's just it's new age nonsense that she

1983
01:12:34,229 --> 01:12:33,360
talks about so somebody repeated it to

1984
01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:34,239
this guy

1985
01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:36,960
he mentions it in an interview and then

1986
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:39,199
it becomes the narrative that oc

1987
01:12:42,630 --> 01:12:41,440
and israeli space minister said aliens

1988
01:12:45,669 --> 01:12:42,640
are real and

1989
01:12:48,310 --> 01:12:45,679
no that's the reason the reason that we

1990
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:48,320
are having this conversation right now

1991
01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:50,560
with the 60 minutes interview with chris

1992
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:52,640
mellon and lou elizondo

1993
01:13:00,070 --> 01:12:54,800
and the the the you know the sunday

1994
01:13:07,590 --> 01:13:04,149
mainstream media has lost its ability

1995
01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:07,600
to vet sources mainstream media

1996
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:11,120
is not nearly as concerned

1997
01:13:15,430 --> 01:13:13,760
about protecting their reputation it is

1998
01:13:18,310 --> 01:13:15,440
more decentralized

1999
01:13:20,229 --> 01:13:18,320
now than ever and with the advent of

2000
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youtube and channels like yours

2001
01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:23,360
and mine and three thousand other ones

2002
01:13:29,830 --> 01:13:26,400
and twitter and social media news

2003
01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:29,840
gets out and what has happened

2004
01:13:33,669 --> 01:13:32,080
what has happened in my opinion and this

2005
01:13:36,550 --> 01:13:33,679
is just my opinion

2006
01:13:36,950 --> 01:13:36,560
is that because social media has gotten

2007
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:36,960
this

2008
01:13:44,470 --> 01:13:40,000
and ufo twitter specifically

2009
01:13:47,189 --> 01:13:44,480
we have captured a thought process

2010
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:47,199
and that thought process needed to be

2011
01:13:51,189 --> 01:13:48,080
guided

2012
01:13:53,110 --> 01:13:51,199
it needed a guidance behind it

2013
01:13:54,229 --> 01:13:53,120
and because there were some people that

2014
01:13:55,669 --> 01:13:54,239
were getting

2015
01:13:57,430 --> 01:13:55,679
too close there were some people that

2016
01:14:00,149 --> 01:13:57,440
were way far away

2017
01:14:01,750 --> 01:14:00,159
but it needed guidance so the united

2018
01:14:05,110 --> 01:14:01,760
states government

2019
01:14:05,910 --> 01:14:05,120
created this multimedia campaign from

2020
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:05,920
hell

2021
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:08,960
that uses a lot of truth

2022
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:11,920
but a lot of subterfuge to help control

2023
01:14:15,950 --> 01:14:13,120
a narrative

2024
01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:15,960
and knowingly so because with the

2025
01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:18,719
decentralization of the media right now

2026
01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:22,480
they knew they knew that cnn and cbs

2027
01:14:27,830 --> 01:14:25,120
were going to be picking this up

2028
01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:27,840
yeah so do you believe that portions of

2029
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:29,280
the government or someone within the

2030
01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:30,080
government is

2031
01:14:33,669 --> 01:14:33,199
is consciously and with deliberate

2032
01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:33,679
effort

2033
01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:35,760
trying to manipulate perceptions about

2034
01:14:39,830 --> 01:14:36,719
these subjects

2035
01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:39,840
yes i don't know to one simple answer

2036
01:14:44,149 --> 01:14:42,480
yeah i believe so too i don't know what

2037
01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:44,159
to what end and i don't know if it's

2038
01:14:47,830 --> 01:14:46,000
because they want to

2039
01:14:49,189 --> 01:14:47,840
they that they want to false flag an

2040
01:14:50,709 --> 01:14:49,199
alien invasion

2041
01:14:52,790 --> 01:14:50,719
i don't know if it's because they want

2042
01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:52,800
to increase their defense budget

2043
01:14:57,030 --> 01:14:54,640
i don't know if it's because they want

2044
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:57,040
to actually drip us the truth

2045
01:15:03,669 --> 01:15:00,239
but it is a a

2046
01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:03,679
an orchestrated narrative

2047
01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:05,760
but i don't know what the end goal of

2048
01:15:10,070 --> 01:15:07,040
that narrative is

2049
01:15:13,430 --> 01:15:10,080
and that's one of the reasons that i'm

2050
01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:13,440
trying to become off grid with

2051
01:15:18,149 --> 01:15:16,080
information gathering i want to i want

2052
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:18,159
to find my own data

2053
01:15:22,149 --> 01:15:20,880
because i don't trust the data that

2054
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comes from

2055
01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:25,520
official sources yeah i'm sort of in the

2056
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:26,560
same boat as you

2057
01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:29,040
i live my life by a bunch of different

2058
01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:30,719
rules but my number one rule is that i

2059
01:15:33,270 --> 01:15:31,280
don't trust

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anything that anyone from the government

2061
01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:34,880
tells me that's accurate i

2062
01:15:38,709 --> 01:15:37,199
i got to verify it myself before i will

2063
01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:38,719
decide whether i believe what they're

2064
01:15:41,669 --> 01:15:39,840
saying or not

2065
01:15:43,430 --> 01:15:41,679
and you know a lot of the younger

2066
01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:43,440
generation you know they they have this

2067
01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:44,880
sort of naivety that

2068
01:15:48,550 --> 01:15:46,320
like well why would the government lie

2069
01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:48,560
to us right and they don't they're just

2070
01:15:52,390 --> 01:15:50,159
not aware of things

2071
01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:52,400
of the history of our government and how

2072
01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:54,640
much they've lied to us right

2073
01:15:58,390 --> 01:15:57,199
yeah i mean that's what i tell young

2074
01:16:00,149 --> 01:15:58,400
people like i had this

2075
01:16:01,910 --> 01:16:00,159
had this discussion with a relative of

2076
01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:01,920
mine a younger relative

2077
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:04,960
a nephew he said uh oh no you know

2078
01:16:08,390 --> 01:16:07,120
you know george washington and you know

2079
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:08,400
this is a great country

2080
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:10,320
they don't lie to us and i had him look

2081
01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:11,520
it up and then he

2082
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:14,000
yeah after he educated himself i showed

2083
01:16:17,110 --> 01:16:15,760
him 10 more examples of the government

2084
01:16:19,270 --> 01:16:17,120
lying to its people

2085
01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:19,280
yeah we're manipulating perceptions for

2086
01:16:23,189 --> 01:16:20,719
sure you know well

2087
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:23,199
we had we had a story my god what was it

2088
01:16:26,630 --> 01:16:23,840
six eight

2089
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:26,640
ten twelve weeks ago uh where it comes

2090
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:27,040
out and

2091
01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:28,800
and forgive me for citing this

2092
01:16:31,910 --> 01:16:30,080
incorrectly because

2093
01:16:33,430 --> 01:16:31,920
i know that i'm going to get a detail

2094
01:16:34,070 --> 01:16:33,440
wrong and somebody's gonna chew me for

2095
01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:34,080
it

2096
01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:38,560
every single major news network

2097
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:41,440
where there was a psyop being run by the

2098
01:16:46,229 --> 01:16:43,120
united states military

2099
01:16:47,270 --> 01:16:46,239
on our congressmen and senators to try

2100
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to get them to

2101
01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:48,800
increase funding for the war in

2102
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:51,600
afghanistan the military

2103
01:16:55,350 --> 01:16:53,440
the military was doing background

2104
01:16:56,470 --> 01:16:55,360
investigations and pulling pertinent

2105
01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:56,480
information on

2106
01:16:59,910 --> 01:16:58,320
on certain people and trying to find out

2107
01:17:01,510 --> 01:16:59,920
what their weaknesses were

2108
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:01,520
and basically cornering them in the

2109
01:17:06,229 --> 01:17:03,920
hallways of of of the capitol building

2110
01:17:07,350 --> 01:17:06,239
and giving them misleading information

2111
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:07,360
in the hopes

2112
01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:09,280
that they would vote for increased

2113
01:17:14,149 --> 01:17:12,080
defense spending and it was all crap

2114
01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:14,159
that's amazing yeah i think a lot of

2115
01:17:17,990 --> 01:17:15,920
this stuff maybe

2116
01:17:19,669 --> 01:17:18,000
maybe directly or indirectly tied to

2117
01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:19,679
funding and people are pulling

2118
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:22,159
someone pulling the strings because when

2119
01:17:25,510 --> 01:17:23,120
i look at the

2120
01:17:27,350 --> 01:17:25,520
at the black budget i saw a chart of

2121
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:27,360
like how much the black budget has

2122
01:17:31,990 --> 01:17:28,800
increased in the past

2123
01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:32,000
say 30 years and it is it is

2124
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:34,159
exponentially increased and the amount

2125
01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:35,280
of money that

2126
01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:37,440
you know speaking of money thanks to

2127
01:17:43,830 --> 01:17:39,679
rogue status for a kind and generous 20

2128
01:17:45,270 --> 01:17:43,840
donation hey rogue you suck too but you

2129
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:45,280
talked about this last night i'm from

2130
01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:47,280
philadelphia and he's from philadelphia

2131
01:17:50,550 --> 01:17:48,480
and in philadelphia

2132
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:50,560
a sign of affection between men

2133
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:52,320
especially is to bust each other's balls

2134
01:17:56,070 --> 01:17:54,480
so he comes here and sends me money and

2135
01:17:57,750 --> 01:17:56,080
tells me my show sucks

2136
01:17:59,189 --> 01:17:57,760
but we appreciate your generosity and

2137
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:59,199
your support of the show thank you very

2138
01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:00,960
much every dollar goes right back into

2139
01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:03,120
the till to help the show keep going

2140
01:18:07,669 --> 01:18:06,239
and here we are you know i gotta tell i

2141
01:18:09,189 --> 01:18:07,679
gotta thank you for doing this too

2142
01:18:11,510 --> 01:18:09,199
because i've been listening to

2143
01:18:12,630 --> 01:18:11,520
you for quite a while and uh i just kind

2144
01:18:14,630 --> 01:18:12,640
of went

2145
01:18:15,750 --> 01:18:14,640
there's some people i just i i don't i

2146
01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:15,760
don't reach out to

2147
01:18:19,510 --> 01:18:17,840
you know i just kind of listen to them

2148
01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:19,520
and then uh eventually though

2149
01:18:23,590 --> 01:18:21,600
i'm glad that we got to talk because

2150
01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:23,600
yeah you and i agree on a lot of things

2151
01:18:27,350 --> 01:18:24,960
because i think that you're like

2152
01:18:29,669 --> 01:18:27,360
grounded and you're scientifically based

2153
01:18:31,510 --> 01:18:29,679
and you don't jump to conclusions and i

2154
01:18:32,229 --> 01:18:31,520
love what you said about the data is the

2155
01:18:34,550 --> 01:18:32,239
data

2156
01:18:37,189 --> 01:18:34,560
if it supports what i believe great if

2157
01:18:39,590 --> 01:18:37,199
it shoots down what i believe it's still

2158
01:18:41,350 --> 01:18:39,600
valid scientific data that people should

2159
01:18:44,709 --> 01:18:41,360
have access to right

2160
01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:44,719
exactly people should know the truth

2161
01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:47,040
regardless of what that truth is and you

2162
01:18:52,149 --> 01:18:48,640
know i'd i'm i'm

2163
01:18:55,270 --> 01:18:52,159
divorced and remarried but my ex-wife

2164
01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:55,280
the mother of my my youngest daughter uh

2165
01:18:58,310 --> 01:18:57,600
she she can't stand the fact that i

2166
01:19:01,510 --> 01:18:58,320
don't lie

2167
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:01,520
to my seven-year-old daughter

2168
01:19:06,830 --> 01:19:04,159
how dare you not lie right yeah and it

2169
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:06,840
it drives her nuts because i i treat my

2170
01:19:09,910 --> 01:19:08,000
daughter

2171
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:09,920
my seven-year-old almost eight like

2172
01:19:13,590 --> 01:19:11,520
she's an adult and i'll have adult

2173
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:13,600
conversations with her and she'll ask me

2174
01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:16,080
you know daddy why do you freak out

2175
01:19:20,070 --> 01:19:17,920
every time you see a police officer

2176
01:19:23,430 --> 01:19:20,080
i'll tell her the truth you know you

2177
01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:23,440
have ptsd or something like that

2178
01:19:30,310 --> 01:19:28,000
no i uh just don't trust the government

2179
01:19:31,270 --> 01:19:30,320
that's how i am i i used to be a cop for

2180
01:19:34,149 --> 01:19:31,280
12 years

2181
01:19:35,830 --> 01:19:34,159
i did not know that so well that was my

2182
01:19:37,669 --> 01:19:35,840
job and that was my job in the air force

2183
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:37,679
it was a military police officer oh yeah

2184
01:19:41,270 --> 01:19:39,040
yeah and by the way thank you for your

2185
01:19:43,669 --> 01:19:41,280
service

2186
01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:43,679
don't thank me thank you my dad really

2187
01:19:47,270 --> 01:19:45,440
are the guys that didn't make it

2188
01:19:48,550 --> 01:19:47,280
my dad was a navy guy he wanted me in

2189
01:19:50,149 --> 01:19:48,560
the military but i just

2190
01:19:52,709 --> 01:19:50,159
knew that i wasn't disciplined enough

2191
01:19:55,350 --> 01:19:52,719
and i would have flunked out

2192
01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:55,360
i was like dude how many push-ups bro no

2193
01:19:58,709 --> 01:19:56,080
way

2194
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:58,719
you know i just couldn't do it i knew i

2195
01:20:01,510 --> 01:20:00,000
couldn't do it so

2196
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:01,520
don't don't thank me thank the families

2197
01:20:06,310 --> 01:20:03,040
of the people that didn't make it back i

2198
01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:06,320
i came back yeah yeah and you were a

2199
01:20:08,709 --> 01:20:08,159
desert storm i'm aware right yeah i

2200
01:20:12,229 --> 01:20:08,719
spent

2201
01:20:14,550 --> 01:20:12,239
in the middle east

2202
01:20:16,229 --> 01:20:14,560
and if i if i ever get the opportunity

2203
01:20:17,590 --> 01:20:16,239
to go back there i will throw myself

2204
01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:17,600
down a flight of stairs and break both

2205
01:20:20,790 --> 01:20:18,880
legs first

2206
01:20:23,270 --> 01:20:20,800
wow it's really it was really that bad

2207
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:23,280
for you that place is a [\h__\h]

2208
01:20:28,629 --> 01:20:26,400
yeah i've heard that my cousin

2209
01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:28,639
was in desert storm as a marine and i

2210
01:20:33,189 --> 01:20:31,120
was very really worried for him because

2211
01:20:35,189 --> 01:20:33,199
he's just the kind of guy that like if

2212
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:35,199
you're in a bar and a fight breaks out

2213
01:20:38,709 --> 01:20:36,239
he jumps in

2214
01:20:40,390 --> 01:20:38,719
he's just that kind of like he like he

2215
01:20:41,669 --> 01:20:40,400
likes i don't know if he likes fighting

2216
01:20:44,070 --> 01:20:41,679
conflict so we were

2217
01:20:44,870 --> 01:20:44,080
terrified for him because we figured

2218
01:20:47,590 --> 01:20:44,880
he'd be

2219
01:20:49,110 --> 01:20:47,600
uh charging people when his gun ran out

2220
01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:49,120
of ammunition you know

2221
01:20:52,709 --> 01:20:50,800
his bare hands he's just that kind of

2222
01:20:53,350 --> 01:20:52,719
crazy you know but luckily he made it

2223
01:20:55,910 --> 01:20:53,360
out

2224
01:20:56,629 --> 01:20:55,920
mostly you know he's got some everybody

2225
01:20:58,550 --> 01:20:56,639
that comes back

2226
01:20:59,669 --> 01:20:58,560
brings something back with them trauma

2227
01:21:01,910 --> 01:20:59,679
or you all do

2228
01:21:03,910 --> 01:21:01,920
we all do people talk about hitchhiker's

2229
01:21:05,430 --> 01:21:03,920
syndrome from skinwalker

2230
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:05,440
you know vets have been dealing with

2231
01:21:10,709 --> 01:21:07,280
this mentally for

2232
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:10,719
since there's been wars every every one

2233
01:21:16,950 --> 01:21:13,600
of us brings something back

2234
01:21:18,870 --> 01:21:16,960
yeah so it's it's it's unfortunate

2235
01:21:19,990 --> 01:21:18,880
yeah it's if you see that kind of stuff

2236
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:20,000
it's going to change you

2237
01:21:26,070 --> 01:21:22,960
right rodrigo is saying show us your

2238
01:21:29,510 --> 01:21:28,070
yeah sure that's fine you do what you

2239
01:21:31,510 --> 01:21:29,520
need to do here

2240
01:21:32,550 --> 01:21:31,520
so friends we're we're talking with

2241
01:21:34,629 --> 01:21:32,560
jeremy uh

2242
01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:34,639
unidentified you can follow him on

2243
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:35,600
twitter

2244
01:21:41,430 --> 01:21:38,719
uh i gotta tell you he's got a really

2245
01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:41,440
good take on a lot of this ufo uap stuff

2246
01:21:45,189 --> 01:21:43,520
and we need we need people like him

2247
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:45,199
because

2248
01:21:48,870 --> 01:21:47,280
the narrative is getting is getting

2249
01:21:51,669 --> 01:21:48,880
crazy with people pushing

2250
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:51,679
their their narrative and really i want

2251
01:21:55,510 --> 01:21:53,600
to get to the truth glad to know people

2252
01:21:56,790 --> 01:21:55,520
like him who can help me do that and i

2253
01:21:59,510 --> 01:21:56,800
can share this uh

2254
01:22:00,870 --> 01:21:59,520
conversation and journey with you so

2255
01:22:01,990 --> 01:22:00,880
what i wanted to do is just turn my

2256
01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:02,000
camera around so don't

2257
01:22:05,669 --> 01:22:03,679
don't don't put me off let me let me

2258
01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:05,679
just pick this up oh i'm sorry no that's

2259
01:22:09,510 --> 01:22:06,480
fine

2260
01:22:10,149 --> 01:22:09,520
here rodrigo you've got a little

2261
01:22:13,030 --> 01:22:10,159
collection

2262
01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:13,040
there that that's that's a little bit of

2263
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:13,840
it

2264
01:22:19,189 --> 01:22:16,960
so yeah i uh thank god i'm wearing pants

2265
01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:19,199
when i stood up not so big a gun guy but

2266
01:22:22,390 --> 01:22:21,040
i noticed that it's getting real hard to

2267
01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:22,400
find ammunition

2268
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:25,040
well i make my own i reload my own ammo

2269
01:22:29,669 --> 01:22:26,400
i build my own rifles

2270
01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:29,679
uh i uh i just like to have control of

2271
01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:30,320
the things

2272
01:22:33,590 --> 01:22:33,040
the tools that i use yeah i'm an archery

2273
01:22:36,070 --> 01:22:33,600
guy

2274
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:36,080
i like i like archery so at the cabin i

2275
01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:38,000
have both but if i had to choose which

2276
01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:40,239
one to use for hunting or whatever

2277
01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:42,000
yeah well for personal defense i would

2278
01:22:45,430 --> 01:22:43,360
always choose a gun

2279
01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:45,440
but for hunting i i like i like the

2280
01:22:48,310 --> 01:22:46,880
sportsman you know i think it's like a

2281
01:22:50,070 --> 01:22:48,320
little more challenging

2282
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:50,080
and there's something ancient about that

2283
01:22:53,750 --> 01:22:52,159
bow and arrow you know

2284
01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:53,760
yeah there is there's there's there's a

2285
01:22:57,430 --> 01:22:55,760
connection there's there's a huge

2286
01:23:00,550 --> 01:22:57,440
connection between

2287
01:23:01,910 --> 01:23:00,560
uh the the the action and the result

2288
01:23:05,270 --> 01:23:01,920
when you have a bow and arrow in your

2289
01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:05,280
hand yeah yeah so that's interesting

2290
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:07,199
you know i noticed uh i noticed a lot of

2291
01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:09,040
people are doing like

2292
01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:10,960
i guess prepper sort of things right

2293
01:23:13,830 --> 01:23:12,080
have you noticed this

2294
01:23:15,270 --> 01:23:13,840
sort of changed in the past year where

2295
01:23:17,110 --> 01:23:15,280
people are sort of uh

2296
01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:17,120
a little more paranoid than usual

2297
01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:18,480
without not having

2298
01:23:24,149 --> 01:23:22,080
enough things and hoarding things and

2299
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:24,159
if you're putting gasoline in a plastic

2300
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:25,760
bag

2301
01:23:29,350 --> 01:23:28,080
i saw that completely and and if you're

2302
01:23:32,709 --> 01:23:29,360
on my friend's list

2303
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:32,719
just go ahead and delete yourself yeah

2304
01:23:39,189 --> 01:23:36,080
don't put gasoline in a plastic bag

2305
01:23:40,950 --> 01:23:39,199
folks that is ridiculous i have a friend

2306
01:23:41,590 --> 01:23:40,960
in europe who sent me a picture of that

2307
01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:41,600
and he said

2308
01:23:45,510 --> 01:23:43,760
is this real are you americans really

2309
01:23:48,149 --> 01:23:45,520
that dumb and i went absolutely

2310
01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:48,159
we're that stupid we are that stupid

2311
01:23:51,350 --> 01:23:48,800
yeah i have

2312
01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:51,360
i've had only one time where i had a

2313
01:23:54,310 --> 01:23:52,639
line here

2314
01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:54,320
and then a couple of a lot of some of

2315
01:23:57,750 --> 01:23:56,080
the gas stations i think about half of

2316
01:23:59,669 --> 01:23:57,760
them around here are out of premium

2317
01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:59,679
or out of cheap gas still you can only

2318
01:24:03,270 --> 01:24:00,880
buy premium you know

2319
01:24:03,910 --> 01:24:03,280
out here in vegas we haven't seen a blip

2320
01:24:07,110 --> 01:24:03,920
yeah

2321
01:24:10,310 --> 01:24:07,120
that pipeline

2322
01:24:11,350 --> 01:24:10,320
so i i asked a lot of questions about

2323
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:11,360
what

2324
01:24:16,390 --> 01:24:13,440
you know we were talking about these

2325
01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:16,400
people pushing this alien narrative yeah

2326
01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:17,920
one question i want to ask you having

2327
01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:19,360
studied this thing for so long because

2328
01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:20,800
i'm always curious of what

2329
01:24:23,830 --> 01:24:23,120
what the bottom line is or what people

2330
01:24:25,590 --> 01:24:23,840
who have

2331
01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:25,600
invested a lot of time studying these

2332
01:24:31,430 --> 01:24:27,840
phenomena believe

2333
01:24:34,310 --> 01:24:31,440
is if there are truly

2334
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:34,320
alien species or interdimensional

2335
01:24:39,990 --> 01:24:36,880
species or something like that

2336
01:24:41,430 --> 01:24:40,000
visiting us on earth why why do you

2337
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:41,440
believe that they're here what is the

2338
01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:42,800
purpose

2339
01:24:46,229 --> 01:24:44,719
i don't know if we're capable of

2340
01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:46,239
answering that question

2341
01:24:50,229 --> 01:24:47,920
because i don't even know if that's the

2342
01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:50,239
right question to ask

2343
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:54,000
if when i was talking to colonel

2344
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:55,440
alexander

2345
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:58,560
in and i i he took me to task a couple

2346
01:25:04,070 --> 01:25:00,960
times for asking similar questions

2347
01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:04,080
and i would ask him you know who who's

2348
01:25:06,390 --> 01:25:06,000
in the ufos who's in the uap and he's

2349
01:25:07,750 --> 01:25:06,400
like

2350
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:07,760
that's just not the right question to

2351
01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:09,760
ask and i was like what is the right

2352
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:10,960
question to ask

2353
01:25:14,070 --> 01:25:13,199
and he goes that's the right question to

2354
01:25:17,350 --> 01:25:14,080
ask

2355
01:25:20,709 --> 01:25:17,360
we we don't yet know enough

2356
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:20,719
about any of this to even begin to

2357
01:25:25,030 --> 01:25:23,280
ask the correct questions and we're not

2358
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:25,040
going to know anything

2359
01:25:29,830 --> 01:25:27,840
until we figure out the questions that

2360
01:25:33,350 --> 01:25:29,840
we need to be asking

2361
01:25:36,070 --> 01:25:33,360
um and it's it sounds like a cop-out

2362
01:25:37,669 --> 01:25:36,080
but i don't i don't think it is i don't

2363
01:25:41,110 --> 01:25:37,679
i really don't think it is and i

2364
01:25:44,310 --> 01:25:41,120
i certainly don't think unless

2365
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:44,320
on the one exception is if uap

2366
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:47,920
are us and i'll i'll define that again

2367
01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:50,320
here in a minute but if you ap or us

2368
01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:52,000
this all goes out the window

2369
01:25:59,430 --> 01:25:55,360
but i don't think that we can ascribe

2370
01:26:02,310 --> 01:25:59,440
human traits or humanity's motivations

2371
01:26:03,110 --> 01:26:02,320
to something that may not be anywhere

2372
01:26:05,990 --> 01:26:03,120
near

2373
01:26:08,550 --> 01:26:06,000
being human that's like that's like

2374
01:26:09,910 --> 01:26:08,560
saying why does an octopus punch a fish

2375
01:26:11,750 --> 01:26:09,920
yeah i always thought it was interesting

2376
01:26:13,030 --> 01:26:11,760
that aliens are always depicted as

2377
01:26:15,430 --> 01:26:13,040
bipedal creatures

2378
01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:15,440
with you know hands and legs like us i

2379
01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:16,080
mean

2380
01:26:19,110 --> 01:26:17,440
for all for all we know they could look

2381
01:26:21,590 --> 01:26:19,120
like octopi or you know

2382
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:21,600
or whales you know and be intelligent

2383
01:26:24,870 --> 01:26:22,320
light

2384
01:26:26,149 --> 01:26:24,880
and i think one of the most inefficient

2385
01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:26,159
things to do

2386
01:26:31,910 --> 01:26:29,280
in the entire cosmos is build a craft

2387
01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:31,920
capable of transporting biological

2388
01:26:36,229 --> 01:26:33,040
entities

2389
01:26:38,950 --> 01:26:36,239
i think that these craft if they are

2390
01:26:41,510 --> 01:26:38,960
space faring craft i think that they're

2391
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:41,520
most likely solid state

2392
01:26:44,870 --> 01:26:43,920
and there's no entities inside of these

2393
01:26:47,990 --> 01:26:44,880
these are yeah they're

2394
01:26:50,070 --> 01:26:48,000
like robotic probes right

2395
01:26:51,910 --> 01:26:50,080
robotic probes solid solid-state probes

2396
01:26:53,830 --> 01:26:51,920
um there's there's a theory that i

2397
01:26:56,870 --> 01:26:53,840
personally subscribe to

2398
01:27:02,550 --> 01:26:56,880
uh the grays i think are probably a

2399
01:27:03,990 --> 01:27:02,560
biological housing for an ai

2400
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:04,000
oh that's an interesting theory i have

2401
01:27:06,950 --> 01:27:05,520
not heard that you know one of the

2402
01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:06,960
theories i like about

2403
01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:09,520
the graves is that they may be uh

2404
01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:11,440
something like a dolphin but evolved

2405
01:27:15,430 --> 01:27:13,360
into a more human form

2406
01:27:17,189 --> 01:27:15,440
jazz shaw would absolutely love you

2407
01:27:20,550 --> 01:27:17,199
because jazz has this whole

2408
01:27:22,470 --> 01:27:20,560
dolphin uh theory going on

2409
01:27:24,149 --> 01:27:22,480
so yeah and you know you know what's

2410
01:27:25,350 --> 01:27:24,159
interesting is that i've been reading

2411
01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:25,360
about dolphins

2412
01:27:28,709 --> 01:27:26,800
and they they're really starting to

2413
01:27:32,149 --> 01:27:28,719
believe that they're just as smart as us

2414
01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:32,159
or just as cognitively capable as us but

2415
01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:35,120
because they're in the water or whatever

2416
01:27:38,149 --> 01:27:36,480
you know and they don't have uh

2417
01:27:39,910 --> 01:27:38,159
posable thumbs they didn't develop

2418
01:27:41,110 --> 01:27:39,920
technology but they may be every bit as

2419
01:27:44,149 --> 01:27:41,120
smart as us

2420
01:27:47,510 --> 01:27:44,159
so that's crazy you know we

2421
01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:47,520
we don't know any anybody that says that

2422
01:27:52,149 --> 01:27:48,800
they have to the answers

2423
01:27:55,430 --> 01:27:52,159
to what is going on is full of crap

2424
01:27:57,510 --> 01:27:55,440
yeah i agree with you 100 and you know

2425
01:27:58,950 --> 01:27:57,520
i really like people that are capable of

2426
01:28:01,669 --> 01:27:58,960
saying i don't know

2427
01:28:02,950 --> 01:28:01,679
right or or capable of admitting that

2428
01:28:04,870 --> 01:28:02,960
they don't really

2429
01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:04,880
have the answers but they hear some

2430
01:28:07,110 --> 01:28:06,800
theories and i could speculate on that

2431
01:28:09,110 --> 01:28:07,120
or

2432
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:09,120
you know and but i believe you're that

2433
01:28:12,550 --> 01:28:10,960
you're 100 correct certainly the most

2434
01:28:14,950 --> 01:28:12,560
efficient way to explore

2435
01:28:16,870 --> 01:28:14,960
other solar systems would be robotic

2436
01:28:20,390 --> 01:28:16,880
drones not sending people

2437
01:28:24,149 --> 01:28:20,400
right or you know not sending

2438
01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:24,159
living if you have to traverse

2439
01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:28,960
light years of of physical space

2440
01:28:32,149 --> 01:28:30,880
i i don't think you do it with a

2441
01:28:34,629 --> 01:28:32,159
biologic

2442
01:28:36,629 --> 01:28:34,639
i i think that that's if if you've been

2443
01:28:39,590 --> 01:28:36,639
able to

2444
01:28:40,390 --> 01:28:39,600
stabilize wormholes or or cross

2445
01:28:42,790 --> 01:28:40,400
dimensions

2446
01:28:44,709 --> 01:28:42,800
then maybe sure because you're

2447
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:44,719
shortening your trip

2448
01:28:50,470 --> 01:28:48,000
but if if you're restricted to

2449
01:28:51,990 --> 01:28:50,480
you know normal ballistic type of travel

2450
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:52,000
across the cosmos

2451
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:53,760
i think you do it with solid-state

2452
01:28:58,149 --> 01:28:56,000
technology yeah and it would seem

2453
01:28:59,750 --> 01:28:58,159
to be like would seem to be like

2454
01:29:01,590 --> 01:28:59,760
reasonable to say that some other

2455
01:29:05,110 --> 01:29:01,600
species would just

2456
01:29:07,510 --> 01:29:05,120
you know say let's let's launch 500

2457
01:29:08,709 --> 01:29:07,520
robotic probes at 500 different solar

2458
01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:08,719
systems if it takes them

2459
01:29:13,750 --> 01:29:11,760
200 years to report back yeah

2460
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:13,760
eventually we'll get some data from it

2461
01:29:18,310 --> 01:29:15,600
it seems reasonable to me

2462
01:29:18,709 --> 01:29:18,320
but i've often thought that and this is

2463
01:29:21,030 --> 01:29:18,719
again

2464
01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:21,040
a 100 speculation but i've often thought

2465
01:29:23,750 --> 01:29:22,000
that the

2466
01:29:26,070 --> 01:29:23,760
phenomenon may be related to some sort

2467
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:26,080
of anthropology project

2468
01:29:32,629 --> 01:29:29,440
like for example if we if we

2469
01:29:34,470 --> 01:29:32,639
find some tribe that is

2470
01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:34,480
a hundred percent without technology off

2471
01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:36,960
on their own in the stone ages

2472
01:29:40,629 --> 01:29:39,280
our scientists would want to study them

2473
01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:40,639
because that's

2474
01:29:44,390 --> 01:29:44,159
to see what what you know what some of

2475
01:29:46,870 --> 01:29:44,400
our

2476
01:29:48,070 --> 01:29:46,880
origins were so i've often thought that

2477
01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:48,080
they may be just

2478
01:29:51,350 --> 01:29:50,880
observing primitive people because

2479
01:29:52,790 --> 01:29:51,360
they're

2480
01:29:54,310 --> 01:29:52,800
you know a hundred thousand years ahead

2481
01:29:55,910 --> 01:29:54,320
of us or however many years a million

2482
01:29:58,310 --> 01:29:55,920
years ahead of us

2483
01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:58,320
and want to see what part of their past

2484
01:30:00,470 --> 01:29:59,760
may have been like that they may have

2485
01:30:03,189 --> 01:30:00,480
lost through

2486
01:30:04,709 --> 01:30:03,199
their own history there there there is

2487
01:30:07,750 --> 01:30:04,719
there is merit in that

2488
01:30:09,590 --> 01:30:07,760
and uh when one of the conversations

2489
01:30:12,070 --> 01:30:09,600
that i was having with colonel alexander

2490
01:30:14,550 --> 01:30:12,080
i i proposed to him one of my theories

2491
01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:14,560
and and he didn't shoot it down

2492
01:30:20,149 --> 01:30:17,440
um was and this kind of ties into the

2493
01:30:23,350 --> 01:30:20,159
consciousness aspect of it but it it

2494
01:30:25,030 --> 01:30:23,360
ties it in with with uh you know the

2495
01:30:27,110 --> 01:30:25,040
conservation of of energy and

2496
01:30:30,149 --> 01:30:27,120
thermodynamics that that energy can

2497
01:30:33,189 --> 01:30:30,159
neither be created nor destroyed um

2498
01:30:35,990 --> 01:30:33,199
so that when when we die uh our

2499
01:30:39,430 --> 01:30:36,000
consciousness continues to live

2500
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:39,440
uh somewhere somehow it it it goes

2501
01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:42,480
somewhere so

2502
01:30:50,550 --> 01:30:47,520
potentially this is us visiting us

2503
01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:50,560
that's interesting theory yeah

2504
01:30:54,229 --> 01:30:53,040
but why would it take the the shape of a

2505
01:30:56,629 --> 01:30:54,239
ufo i guess

2506
01:30:57,750 --> 01:30:56,639
well who knows right plasma balls have

2507
01:31:01,030 --> 01:30:57,760
been seen it could be

2508
01:31:02,229 --> 01:31:01,040
energy consciousness turns to energy

2509
01:31:04,709 --> 01:31:02,239
i sure would like somehow believe that

2510
01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:04,719
we go somewhere i cannot wrap my brain

2511
01:31:09,189 --> 01:31:06,320
around just blinking out

2512
01:31:10,229 --> 01:31:09,199
and and and to my existence that's

2513
01:31:12,070 --> 01:31:10,239
through religious

2514
01:31:13,510 --> 01:31:12,080
teachings that i've had my whole life or

2515
01:31:15,030 --> 01:31:13,520
just because i don't want i don't want

2516
01:31:16,390 --> 01:31:15,040
to believe that you just blink out when

2517
01:31:20,070 --> 01:31:16,400
you

2518
01:31:22,950 --> 01:31:20,080
two weeks ago

2519
01:31:24,629 --> 01:31:22,960
and she was terrified of death i don't

2520
01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:24,639
know if she had seen something on tv

2521
01:31:29,030 --> 01:31:26,880
or heard something at school or whatever

2522
01:31:30,790 --> 01:31:29,040
but uh but she was terrified of it and

2523
01:31:32,390 --> 01:31:30,800
and the religious approach even even

2524
01:31:36,470 --> 01:31:32,400
scared her even more

2525
01:31:39,430 --> 01:31:36,480
so i sat her down and and i spoke to her

2526
01:31:40,149 --> 01:31:39,440
about uh the fact you know that that you

2527
01:31:42,070 --> 01:31:40,159
can't

2528
01:31:44,070 --> 01:31:42,080
create or destroy energy that the

2529
01:31:47,430 --> 01:31:44,080
universe contained the finite amount

2530
01:31:49,669 --> 01:31:47,440
of it you may be able to pull it in from

2531
01:31:51,510 --> 01:31:49,679
other dimensions or other multiverses

2532
01:31:54,629 --> 01:31:51,520
but there's still a finite

2533
01:31:56,229 --> 01:31:54,639
amount um and when i when i relayed this

2534
01:31:58,709 --> 01:31:56,239
to her and i told her that you know

2535
01:32:00,870 --> 01:31:58,719
our brains are based on energy we are

2536
01:32:04,310 --> 01:32:00,880
energy energetic beings

2537
01:32:07,750 --> 01:32:04,320
uh we we need electricity to

2538
01:32:08,470 --> 01:32:07,760
to live uh not the wall outlet at 110

2539
01:32:12,390 --> 01:32:08,480
but i mean

2540
01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:12,400
the the stuff up here and

2541
01:32:16,709 --> 01:32:14,000
after i finished telling her that she's

2542
01:32:19,430 --> 01:32:16,719
like so when we die we don't die

2543
01:32:20,390 --> 01:32:19,440
i was like yeah it's science and she was

2544
01:32:24,709 --> 01:32:20,400
like

2545
01:32:26,070 --> 01:32:24,719
cool okay thanks dad good night and yeah

2546
01:32:27,910 --> 01:32:26,080
because it's a general rule of the

2547
01:32:29,669 --> 01:32:27,920
universe that energy cannot be created

2548
01:32:31,510 --> 01:32:29,679
or destroyed it just changes form

2549
01:32:33,270 --> 01:32:31,520
so maybe your consciousness just changes

2550
01:32:35,030 --> 01:32:33,280
into something else

2551
01:32:36,870 --> 01:32:35,040
you know yeah and maybe it inhabits a

2552
01:32:39,669 --> 01:32:36,880
solid-state drive

2553
01:32:40,790 --> 01:32:39,679
yeah well i guess yeah i'm through my

2554
01:32:41,990 --> 01:32:40,800
list of questions and i don't want to

2555
01:32:42,790 --> 01:32:42,000
keep it too long but i have one

2556
01:32:44,790 --> 01:32:42,800
important one

2557
01:32:46,470 --> 01:32:44,800
sure because i want to i want to know

2558
01:32:48,470 --> 01:32:46,480
what you think about some people's

2559
01:32:51,430 --> 01:32:48,480
claims that the government actually

2560
01:32:53,510 --> 01:32:51,440
has recovered some sort of uh alien

2561
01:32:54,950 --> 01:32:53,520
spacecraft or one of these craft that

2562
01:32:58,070 --> 01:32:54,960
has back engineered

2563
01:33:00,070 --> 01:32:58,080
parts or all of it what do you think of

2564
01:33:02,149 --> 01:33:00,080
these stories because i used to believe

2565
01:33:04,470 --> 01:33:02,159
them but more and more lately i don't

2566
01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:04,480
find them to be credible i don't think

2567
01:33:07,669 --> 01:33:05,520
you know it's like

2568
01:33:09,910 --> 01:33:07,679
people make claims and that's great like

2569
01:33:12,950 --> 01:33:09,920
we've had mark mccandless with this arv

2570
01:33:15,270 --> 01:33:12,960
story bob lazar i don't believe one bit

2571
01:33:15,990 --> 01:33:15,280
uh after a really deep dive into that

2572
01:33:18,709 --> 01:33:16,000
case

2573
01:33:20,310 --> 01:33:18,719
but you know there's there's others that

2574
01:33:21,350 --> 01:33:20,320
have said that there's stuff at wright

2575
01:33:23,110 --> 01:33:21,360
patterson or

2576
01:33:25,910 --> 01:33:23,120
roswell debris got taken to wright

2577
01:33:27,750 --> 01:33:25,920
patterson and we somehow have this stuff

2578
01:33:29,030 --> 01:33:27,760
and we're trying to figure it out but to

2579
01:33:31,430 --> 01:33:29,040
me it

2580
01:33:33,270 --> 01:33:31,440
it it doesn't hold water because it

2581
01:33:35,430 --> 01:33:33,280
would be kind of like handing an iphone

2582
01:33:37,110 --> 01:33:35,440
to a caveman and saying i'll give you as

2583
01:33:39,189 --> 01:33:37,120
much money as you want

2584
01:33:40,310 --> 01:33:39,199
make me another one of these you know

2585
01:33:42,709 --> 01:33:40,320
the caveman would have

2586
01:33:43,830 --> 01:33:42,719
no idea what he was looking at let alone

2587
01:33:47,669 --> 01:33:43,840
how to reproduce it

2588
01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:47,679
well i i think i think there's probably

2589
01:33:51,830 --> 01:33:48,480
about

2590
01:33:53,430 --> 01:33:51,840
a 50 50 chance that it's real i i think

2591
01:33:56,950 --> 01:33:53,440
that

2592
01:34:03,750 --> 01:33:56,960
us

2593
01:34:04,870 --> 01:34:03,760
and i think that we probably most likely

2594
01:34:12,149 --> 01:34:04,880
have

2595
01:34:16,709 --> 01:34:12,159
i think we are reverse engineering

2596
01:34:21,030 --> 01:34:19,189
that was not created by us and by us i

2597
01:34:24,310 --> 01:34:21,040
mean terrestrial based

2598
01:34:25,110 --> 01:34:24,320
you know humans born in poughkeepsie i i

2599
01:34:30,390 --> 01:34:25,120
don't

2600
01:34:33,669 --> 01:34:30,400
everything that we have is us

2601
01:34:35,430 --> 01:34:33,679
and and to expand on that i think

2602
01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:35,440
based on the conversations that i have

2603
01:34:39,270 --> 01:34:37,199
had with people and i'm not going to

2604
01:34:39,990 --> 01:34:39,280
name them but everybody knows who they

2605
01:34:42,950 --> 01:34:40,000
are

2606
01:34:44,830 --> 01:34:42,960
and you've seen pictures of me hanging

2607
01:34:49,030 --> 01:34:44,840
out with some of these people

2608
01:34:52,709 --> 01:34:49,040
um according to internal theories

2609
01:34:56,070 --> 01:34:52,719
we know who is in the saucers

2610
01:34:59,830 --> 01:34:56,080
the black triangles are a combination

2611
01:35:01,669 --> 01:34:59,840
of us and them and we don't have a clue

2612
01:35:03,910 --> 01:35:01,679
who's in the tic tacs

2613
01:35:05,430 --> 01:35:03,920
that's interesting and just to circle

2614
01:35:06,950 --> 01:35:05,440
back um

2615
01:35:08,709 --> 01:35:06,960
you mentioned spending some time with

2616
01:35:11,270 --> 01:35:08,719
louisando and uh

2617
01:35:13,030 --> 01:35:11,280
you were on this unidentified show and

2618
01:35:13,510 --> 01:35:13,040
you know i'm really up in the air about

2619
01:35:15,830 --> 01:35:13,520
him

2620
01:35:16,629 --> 01:35:15,840
and i i was definitely very skeptical of

2621
01:35:19,750 --> 01:35:16,639
ttsa

2622
01:35:21,189 --> 01:35:19,760
after all tom delong famously

2623
01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:21,199
basically promised people that they were

2624
01:35:24,070 --> 01:35:22,880
going to build a spaceship while he was

2625
01:35:25,430 --> 01:35:24,080
soliciting investor

2626
01:35:29,189 --> 01:35:25,440
funds and then he never built a

2627
01:35:30,790 --> 01:35:29,199
spaceship so a huge problems with that

2628
01:35:32,709 --> 01:35:30,800
i don't have a problem with lou leaving

2629
01:35:34,229 --> 01:35:32,719
and i don't have a problem with

2630
01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:34,239
most of what he said but i always feel

2631
01:35:37,830 --> 01:35:36,480
like he when he gets pressed and asked a

2632
01:35:41,669 --> 01:35:37,840
really hard question he

2633
01:35:44,070 --> 01:35:41,679
defaults to an nba which is probably

2634
01:35:45,510 --> 01:35:44,080
just it's frustrating for me because it

2635
01:35:47,750 --> 01:35:45,520
makes me think like

2636
01:35:50,390 --> 01:35:47,760
maybe he does maybe there's a reason why

2637
01:35:52,550 --> 01:35:50,400
he's so gung-ho about this but he can't

2638
01:35:54,629 --> 01:35:52,560
spill the beans so he's trying to find

2639
01:35:57,830 --> 01:35:54,639
other beans that he's allowed to spill

2640
01:36:00,709 --> 01:35:57,840
what's your take on mr elizondo and

2641
01:36:04,870 --> 01:36:00,719
uh and and his efforts and what do you

2642
01:36:09,510 --> 01:36:07,750
i spent a week at his house lou was one

2643
01:36:11,750 --> 01:36:09,520
of the most hospitable people that i

2644
01:36:15,109 --> 01:36:11,760
have ever met in my life

2645
01:36:16,070 --> 01:36:15,119
um i'm not going to speak bad about him

2646
01:36:18,550 --> 01:36:16,080
because

2647
01:36:20,149 --> 01:36:18,560
i may well i wasn't asking you to too

2648
01:36:21,510 --> 01:36:20,159
yeah don't get the wrong idea i'm just

2649
01:36:22,790 --> 01:36:21,520
asking you for your sense and your

2650
01:36:25,030 --> 01:36:22,800
thoughts on him so

2651
01:36:26,149 --> 01:36:25,040
whatever you know yeah i think that

2652
01:36:28,870 --> 01:36:26,159
everything that lou

2653
01:36:31,830 --> 01:36:28,880
does i think that he truly believes that

2654
01:36:34,310 --> 01:36:31,840
he's doing the right thing

2655
01:36:36,070 --> 01:36:34,320
i honestly believe that lou thinks that

2656
01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:36,080
he's doing the right

2657
01:36:40,870 --> 01:36:39,760
thing um if i was the united states

2658
01:36:44,229 --> 01:36:40,880
government

2659
01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:44,239
and i wanted i needed

2660
01:36:50,070 --> 01:36:47,520
my population to believe a certain

2661
01:36:54,149 --> 01:36:52,709
there's a script there's a script to

2662
01:36:57,189 --> 01:36:54,159
find somebody

2663
01:36:59,350 --> 01:36:57,199
to to get a man of the people and

2664
01:37:00,950 --> 01:36:59,360
and and put them in a position and and

2665
01:37:03,430 --> 01:37:00,960
get them to sacrifice

2666
01:37:05,590 --> 01:37:03,440
and get them to be drug through the

2667
01:37:07,430 --> 01:37:05,600
coals and then rise from the ashes and

2668
01:37:08,550 --> 01:37:07,440
be proven right about everything that

2669
01:37:12,229 --> 01:37:08,560
they say

2670
01:37:15,430 --> 01:37:12,239
that's a script and it's happened before

2671
01:37:19,350 --> 01:37:15,440
in uap history in the united states

2672
01:37:22,870 --> 01:37:19,360
yeah yes case for sure

2673
01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:22,880
so i but i think that lou

2674
01:37:26,310 --> 01:37:24,880
believes that what he's doing is the

2675
01:37:28,470 --> 01:37:26,320
right thing and i think he's an

2676
01:37:30,310 --> 01:37:28,480
admirable guy and he served our country

2677
01:37:32,470 --> 01:37:30,320
and he kicked some ass and he did some

2678
01:37:33,990 --> 01:37:32,480
amazing [\h__\h] when he was in the military

2679
01:37:35,590 --> 01:37:34,000
and i will never take any of that away

2680
01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:35,600
from him good

2681
01:37:38,950 --> 01:37:37,440
good rogue status has a great question

2682
01:37:40,470 --> 01:37:38,960
how do you guys feel about deathbed

2683
01:37:43,189 --> 01:37:40,480
confessions credible

2684
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:43,199
i yeah what i would say is that there's

2685
01:37:45,990 --> 01:37:44,800
there's some deathbed confessions out

2686
01:37:48,070 --> 01:37:46,000
there that are garbage

2687
01:37:50,390 --> 01:37:48,080
most notably jeremy corbell and richard

2688
01:37:52,790 --> 01:37:50,400
dolan cia deathbed confession

2689
01:37:54,310 --> 01:37:52,800
we've covered that here previously we

2690
01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:54,320
found out that the gentleman

2691
01:37:58,709 --> 01:37:56,159
pictured in the video as this amazing

2692
01:38:00,550 --> 01:37:58,719
guest talking about area 51 and aliens

2693
01:38:02,950 --> 01:38:00,560
was never in the military and never

2694
01:38:03,430 --> 01:38:02,960
worked for the cia he worked his entire

2695
01:38:05,510 --> 01:38:03,440
life

2696
01:38:06,709 --> 01:38:05,520
as a grocery store person he worked in a

2697
01:38:09,030 --> 01:38:06,719
grocery store

2698
01:38:10,229 --> 01:38:09,040
so so i think if you could verify their

2699
01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:10,239
background

2700
01:38:13,750 --> 01:38:12,080
as being genuine and accurate and

2701
01:38:15,189 --> 01:38:13,760
they're telling stories about aliens

2702
01:38:16,390 --> 01:38:15,199
there's a lot of roswell deathbed

2703
01:38:18,870 --> 01:38:16,400
confessions that i

2704
01:38:20,629 --> 01:38:18,880
find credible because why in the in

2705
01:38:22,229 --> 01:38:20,639
somebody's last days would they suddenly

2706
01:38:23,669 --> 01:38:22,239
just start making up

2707
01:38:25,590 --> 01:38:23,679
things about aliens what do you think

2708
01:38:27,669 --> 01:38:25,600
jeremy

2709
01:38:31,669 --> 01:38:27,679
i think i'll adopt the policy of the nsa

2710
01:38:34,229 --> 01:38:31,679
or the cia on that one trust but verify

2711
01:38:35,910 --> 01:38:34,239
yeah that's an excellent way well listen

2712
01:38:37,430 --> 01:38:35,920
i i can't thank you enough for doing

2713
01:38:40,149 --> 01:38:37,440
this and i hope that you will come back

2714
01:38:42,390 --> 01:38:40,159
we're rebooting our revisiting roswell

2715
01:38:44,149 --> 01:38:42,400
series i'd love to just pick your brain

2716
01:38:45,430 --> 01:38:44,159
for an hour about roswell and see what

2717
01:38:47,270 --> 01:38:45,440
you can yeah

2718
01:38:52,470 --> 01:38:47,280
spooky has a question right there he's

2719
01:38:58,070 --> 01:38:55,990
yeah oh no jeremy's one of those

2720
01:39:01,270 --> 01:38:58,080
freemasons he's trying to rule the world

2721
01:39:04,629 --> 01:39:01,280
he can't be trusted right

2722
01:39:06,629 --> 01:39:04,639
yes yes i uh of course now i can't get

2723
01:39:08,870 --> 01:39:06,639
him back on the wall

2724
01:39:10,070 --> 01:39:08,880
that'll sit down there for a minute um

2725
01:39:13,350 --> 01:39:10,080
yeah yes

2726
01:39:15,270 --> 01:39:13,360
yes i i am a mason i was uh entered

2727
01:39:17,350 --> 01:39:15,280
passed and raised back in the year 2000

2728
01:39:19,510 --> 01:39:17,360
at vegas lodge number 32

2729
01:39:21,830 --> 01:39:19,520
and i am a member of the scottish rite i

2730
01:39:24,550 --> 01:39:21,840
am a 32nd degree

2731
01:39:26,229 --> 01:39:24,560
scottish right mason as well yeah you

2732
01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:26,239
know i've had an interest in that

2733
01:39:29,270 --> 01:39:28,800
and i even uh almost joined attempted to

2734
01:39:31,510 --> 01:39:29,280
join

2735
01:39:32,950 --> 01:39:31,520
but then things sort of got in the way

2736
01:39:34,629 --> 01:39:32,960
did you find it to be

2737
01:39:36,070 --> 01:39:34,639
very helpful to your life because

2738
01:39:38,229 --> 01:39:36,080
everybody i know that did it

2739
01:39:39,189 --> 01:39:38,239
said that it made them a better man

2740
01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:39,199
right isn't that

2741
01:39:42,229 --> 01:39:40,800
a part of the thing making good men

2742
01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:42,239
better men yeah

2743
01:39:45,590 --> 01:39:44,880
make making making a good man good man a

2744
01:39:49,030 --> 01:39:45,600
better man

2745
01:39:52,070 --> 01:39:49,040
absolutely um it's not a religion

2746
01:39:52,870 --> 01:39:52,080
it's it's not even a dogma uh it it's

2747
01:39:55,990 --> 01:39:52,880
just uh

2748
01:39:57,270 --> 01:39:56,000
it's a philosophy yeah yeah so you're

2749
01:39:57,750 --> 01:39:57,280
not trying to take over the world or

2750
01:40:00,870 --> 01:39:57,760
anything

2751
01:40:02,950 --> 01:40:00,880
did you get that up that far

2752
01:40:04,070 --> 01:40:02,960
you can get these illuminati secrets

2753
01:40:06,310 --> 01:40:04,080
from them yet

2754
01:40:07,990 --> 01:40:06,320
i wouldn't be driving around in a 99

2755
01:40:10,070 --> 01:40:08,000
land rover if i was uh

2756
01:40:11,510 --> 01:40:10,080
being able to take over the world so

2757
01:40:13,669 --> 01:40:11,520
yeah that's very good

2758
01:40:15,109 --> 01:40:13,679
very good point well i want to thank you

2759
01:40:16,470 --> 01:40:15,119
for doing this i'm going to throw you

2760
01:40:17,590 --> 01:40:16,480
away out and attend to some show

2761
01:40:19,350 --> 01:40:17,600
business i have some

2762
01:40:21,030 --> 01:40:19,360
announcements to make i'm happy that you

2763
01:40:22,870 --> 01:40:21,040
could do this tonight because we just

2764
01:40:24,470 --> 01:40:22,880
now got on all these different audio

2765
01:40:26,550 --> 01:40:24,480
podcast networks so

2766
01:40:28,790 --> 01:40:26,560
people will be able to catch this replay

2767
01:40:30,709 --> 01:40:28,800
of us virtually anywhere that they get

2768
01:40:32,229 --> 01:40:30,719
their audio podcasts

2769
01:40:34,390 --> 01:40:32,239
and you're one of the first episodes

2770
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:34,400
going up because they're fantastic

2771
01:40:38,870 --> 01:40:37,199
this is a great one and also i consider

2772
01:40:40,390 --> 01:40:38,880
that part of what we do here as a public

2773
01:40:42,709 --> 01:40:40,400
service and i can't stand all the

2774
01:40:45,590 --> 01:40:42,719
disinformation and false information

2775
01:40:46,390 --> 01:40:45,600
narrative pushing and i knew that that

2776
01:40:48,149 --> 01:40:46,400
having somebody

2777
01:40:50,149 --> 01:40:48,159
an expert really like you could really

2778
01:40:52,470 --> 01:40:50,159
help educate the public so

2779
01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:52,480
well i'm not i'm not an expert on

2780
01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:54,480
anything i would encourage

2781
01:40:57,910 --> 01:40:57,040
everyone to not follow i mean follow me

2782
01:41:01,189 --> 01:40:57,920
on twitter but don't

2783
01:41:02,390 --> 01:41:01,199
follow me do your own research find your

2784
01:41:05,669 --> 01:41:02,400
own information

2785
01:41:07,030 --> 01:41:05,679
and verify the things that i say just as

2786
01:41:09,350 --> 01:41:07,040
much as i encourage

2787
01:41:10,070 --> 01:41:09,360
myself to verify the things that the

2788
01:41:13,669 --> 01:41:10,080
government say

2789
01:41:15,669 --> 01:41:13,679
take nothing on face value okay

2790
01:41:17,350 --> 01:41:15,679
yeah that's a good way to close out so

2791
01:41:18,149 --> 01:41:17,360
i'm gonna throw you out attend to some

2792
01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:18,159
show business

2793
01:41:21,350 --> 01:41:19,760
thank you very much for doing this this

2794
01:41:22,709 --> 01:41:21,360
has been one of my favorite shows on

2795
01:41:24,629 --> 01:41:22,719
ufos that ever

2796
01:41:26,709 --> 01:41:24,639
and a great conversation i can't wait

2797
01:41:28,790 --> 01:41:26,719
hopefully we can get you back right

2798
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:28,800
absolutely just uh just give me a shout

2799
01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:29,760
our convenience

2800
01:41:34,390 --> 01:41:32,639
and i will put your twitter uh link to

2801
01:41:36,310 --> 01:41:34,400
your twitter and the the link to your

2802
01:41:39,510 --> 01:41:36,320
youtube channel is already in the

2803
01:41:40,950 --> 01:41:39,520
uh description so pictures right there

2804
01:41:42,470 --> 01:41:40,960
yes and this is his twitter right there

2805
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:42,480
but i'll put it in the link to the video

2806
01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:43,760
description as well

2807
01:41:47,350 --> 01:41:45,199
you guys if you enjoyed tonight you

2808
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:47,360
would really enjoy his content and

2809
01:41:52,629 --> 01:41:50,800
his twitter battles are epic

2810
01:41:54,149 --> 01:41:52,639
all right thanks jeremy good night thank

2811
01:41:57,270 --> 01:41:54,159
you steven enjoy

2812
01:41:59,750 --> 01:41:57,280
bye-bye all right friends uh boy

2813
01:42:01,270 --> 01:41:59,760
what and what what a great conversation

2814
01:42:04,870 --> 01:42:01,280
this has been one of my favorite

2815
01:42:08,070 --> 01:42:04,880
uh talks or interviews so far um

2816
01:42:11,669 --> 01:42:08,080
i did want to just attend to some show

2817
01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:11,679
business and that is i posted on

2818
01:42:18,790 --> 01:42:16,560
twitter earlier this sort of new graphic

2819
01:42:20,790 --> 01:42:18,800
i was joking before that opportunities

2820
01:42:22,790 --> 01:42:20,800
multiply as they are seized but they

2821
01:42:26,390 --> 01:42:22,800
really do

2822
01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:26,400
and we recently got monetized on youtube

2823
01:42:29,430 --> 01:42:28,480
which enables our super chats which is

2824
01:42:31,990 --> 01:42:29,440
really really

2825
01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:32,000
really a helpful thing let me share this

2826
01:42:36,390 --> 01:42:33,119
announcement

2827
01:42:39,430 --> 01:42:36,400
because this is big news uh many people

2828
01:42:42,629 --> 01:42:39,440
have been asking me for a long time uh

2829
01:42:44,390 --> 01:42:42,639
if i could get the show to audio podcast

2830
01:42:46,070 --> 01:42:44,400
and honestly i didn't want to do it

2831
01:42:48,149 --> 01:42:46,080
uh because i figured that the show was a

2832
01:42:51,109 --> 01:42:48,159
video show you could just

2833
01:42:53,510 --> 01:42:51,119
listen and not watch right uh there's

2834
01:42:55,430 --> 01:42:53,520
three distribution points already

2835
01:42:57,189 --> 01:42:55,440
but i thought a lot about it and and

2836
01:42:58,870 --> 01:42:57,199
then i talked to somebody who's a truck

2837
01:43:02,390 --> 01:42:58,880
driver who explained to me that

2838
01:43:04,709 --> 01:43:02,400
if he gets pulled over and he's watching

2839
01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:04,719
uh a show he could get in trouble or

2840
01:43:08,229 --> 01:43:06,560
ticketed or whatever

2841
01:43:10,390 --> 01:43:08,239
but if he's listening to an audio

2842
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:10,400
podcast that's perfectly okay

2843
01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:14,400
so i heard him and a few others

2844
01:43:19,350 --> 01:43:17,360
and they want to see the audio podcast

2845
01:43:19,990 --> 01:43:19,360
version of truthseeker so i'm happy to

2846
01:43:23,270 --> 01:43:20,000
announce

2847
01:43:24,229 --> 01:43:23,280
uh not only are we going to continue to

2848
01:43:26,950 --> 01:43:24,239
be a live video

2849
01:43:28,229 --> 01:43:26,960
show uh streamed on youtube facebook and

2850
01:43:30,229 --> 01:43:28,239
twitch but now

2851
01:43:32,629 --> 01:43:30,239
the audio podcast version of truth

2852
01:43:35,189 --> 01:43:32,639
seekers is going to be available on

2853
01:43:36,229 --> 01:43:35,199
apple podcasts spreaker spotify

2854
01:43:39,510 --> 01:43:36,239
iheartradio

2855
01:43:42,709 --> 01:43:39,520
google podcast amazon music cast box

2856
01:43:46,070 --> 01:43:42,719
deezer podcast attic pod cheaper

2857
01:43:48,870 --> 01:43:46,080
chaser geo saving and

2858
01:43:51,109 --> 01:43:48,880
more basically anywhere you get your

2859
01:43:52,870 --> 01:43:51,119
audio podcast you should be able to find

2860
01:43:55,669 --> 01:43:52,880
truth seekers just look for

2861
01:43:57,350 --> 01:43:55,679
uh the weird guy with the sunglasses

2862
01:44:00,550 --> 01:43:57,360
that's in the in the

2863
01:44:03,430 --> 01:44:00,560
you know profile you'll find us

2864
01:44:04,550 --> 01:44:03,440
and you can listen to the audio version

2865
01:44:07,590 --> 01:44:04,560
but i do have to

2866
01:44:12,229 --> 01:44:07,600
uh say that it's much much easier

2867
01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:12,239
to have the audio podcast as replays so

2868
01:44:18,390 --> 01:44:14,880
we're not going to be broadcasting

2869
01:44:20,470 --> 01:44:18,400
uh this show live to all those

2870
01:44:21,669 --> 01:44:20,480
in other words while you're watching the

2871
01:44:24,550 --> 01:44:21,679
video on youtube

2872
01:44:26,070 --> 01:44:24,560
twitch or facebook live you're getting

2873
01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:26,080
the live version of the show

2874
01:44:30,229 --> 01:44:28,480
the audio podcast will be the replays so

2875
01:44:33,910 --> 01:44:30,239
in other words as soon as i'm

2876
01:44:36,070 --> 01:44:33,920
uh finished with the show i upload it

2877
01:44:38,470 --> 01:44:36,080
and then the rss feed takes it out to

2878
01:44:40,950 --> 01:44:38,480
all the different distribution points

2879
01:44:41,590 --> 01:44:40,960
but you asked for it we we gave it to

2880
01:44:43,669 --> 01:44:41,600
you

2881
01:44:46,149 --> 01:44:43,679
i also want to make sure that people

2882
01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:46,159
listening in audio podcast land

2883
01:44:49,270 --> 01:44:48,480
realize that we have a live chat when we

2884
01:44:52,709 --> 01:44:49,280
have the live

2885
01:44:54,310 --> 01:44:52,719
shows on youtube facebook and twitch

2886
01:44:56,310 --> 01:44:54,320
that you can participate in you've heard

2887
01:44:59,590 --> 01:44:56,320
us take questions from the live chat

2888
01:45:00,229 --> 01:44:59,600
tonight if you would like to participate

2889
01:45:02,229 --> 01:45:00,239
we have an

2890
01:45:03,830 --> 01:45:02,239
amazing community here of people

2891
01:45:06,550 --> 01:45:03,840
interested in these subjects we have

2892
01:45:10,470 --> 01:45:06,560
lively conversations and debates

2893
01:45:13,109 --> 01:45:10,480
and uh things that

2894
01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:13,119
we would like you to come and

2895
01:45:15,750 --> 01:45:13,920
participate

2896
01:45:17,669 --> 01:45:15,760
so if you'd like to be a part of the

2897
01:45:19,270 --> 01:45:17,679
community here if you'd like to come and

2898
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:19,280
ask me questions live

2899
01:45:22,709 --> 01:45:21,840
you can do so just search for truth

2900
01:45:25,270 --> 01:45:22,719
seekers

2901
01:45:27,510 --> 01:45:25,280
on youtube and again look for that guy

2902
01:45:29,910 --> 01:45:27,520
that weird guy with the sunglasses and

2903
01:45:31,109 --> 01:45:29,920
dark hair that's me stephen campion and

2904
01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:31,119
you'll find us

2905
01:45:34,470 --> 01:45:33,040
on youtube and you too can participate

2906
01:45:37,030 --> 01:45:34,480
in the live chat

2907
01:45:38,629 --> 01:45:37,040
i will be looking into seeing if we can

2908
01:45:41,910 --> 01:45:38,639
make the audio

2909
01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:41,920
synchronize and all the audio podcast

2910
01:45:47,030 --> 01:45:43,760
distribution points

2911
01:45:48,790 --> 01:45:47,040
take our feed live but that's a battle

2912
01:45:50,390 --> 01:45:48,800
for another time for now i thought it

2913
01:45:52,550 --> 01:45:50,400
would be good enough to get

2914
01:45:55,189 --> 01:45:52,560
the audio podcast out to all these look

2915
01:45:56,709 --> 01:45:55,199
at that i believe there is

2916
01:45:57,990 --> 01:45:56,719
i there's some that i didn't mention

2917
01:45:59,590 --> 01:45:58,000
because they're sort of up and coming

2918
01:46:01,510 --> 01:45:59,600
and i hadn't even heard of them but i

2919
01:46:03,270 --> 01:46:01,520
believe that the audio

2920
01:46:06,709 --> 01:46:03,280
uh version of the show will be going to

2921
01:46:10,310 --> 01:46:06,719
14 different distribution points

2922
01:46:12,870 --> 01:46:10,320
so uh this is a good thing

2923
01:46:14,070 --> 01:46:12,880
and uh i'm happy to make this

2924
01:46:16,390 --> 01:46:14,080
announcement

2925
01:46:17,350 --> 01:46:16,400
for those that ask not much will change

2926
01:46:19,109 --> 01:46:17,360
from our show

2927
01:46:20,709 --> 01:46:19,119
our usual show that you've come to know

2928
01:46:21,990 --> 01:46:20,719
and love uh

2929
01:46:24,310 --> 01:46:22,000
it's just that you're going to be able

2930
01:46:25,990 --> 01:46:24,320
to listen to the audio podcast virtually

2931
01:46:28,149 --> 01:46:26,000
anywhere on the internet

2932
01:46:29,109 --> 01:46:28,159
in the replays in other words if you

2933
01:46:31,270 --> 01:46:29,119
miss a live show

2934
01:46:32,229 --> 01:46:31,280
you can always catch it on any podcast

2935
01:46:35,430 --> 01:46:32,239
network

2936
01:46:38,709 --> 01:46:35,440
usually they'll be there about a half

2937
01:46:40,550 --> 01:46:38,719
a half hour after the show ends so in

2938
01:46:41,350 --> 01:46:40,560
other words tonight as soon as i finish

2939
01:46:44,390 --> 01:46:41,360
with this show

2940
01:46:45,669 --> 01:46:44,400
i will be uploading the file the audio

2941
01:46:49,189 --> 01:46:45,679
file of tonight's show

2942
01:46:50,950 --> 01:46:49,199
to the main hub and then it gets

2943
01:46:53,109 --> 01:46:50,960
sent out onto all the different

2944
01:46:55,590 --> 01:46:53,119
distribution points

2945
01:46:57,270 --> 01:46:55,600
um and one other thing i guess there

2946
01:46:59,189 --> 01:46:57,280
will be a few

2947
01:47:01,510 --> 01:46:59,199
some slight changes like i'm going to

2948
01:47:03,590 --> 01:47:01,520
add a few more musical bumpers and

2949
01:47:05,350 --> 01:47:03,600
things like that and we have to

2950
01:47:07,189 --> 01:47:05,360
now we have to be a little more

2951
01:47:08,950 --> 01:47:07,199
conscious of dead air

2952
01:47:10,790 --> 01:47:08,960
so in other words previously i would

2953
01:47:11,270 --> 01:47:10,800
just put up a graphic that said thank

2954
01:47:14,149 --> 01:47:11,280
you

2955
01:47:15,270 --> 01:47:14,159
to our patreon supporters now that's

2956
01:47:16,470 --> 01:47:15,280
going to be a problem because it would

2957
01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:16,480
be dead air

2958
01:47:21,990 --> 01:47:20,000
for 30 seconds on a podcast so

2959
01:47:24,070 --> 01:47:22,000
a little bit of adjustments but we're

2960
01:47:26,550 --> 01:47:24,080
gonna we're gonna figure that out

2961
01:47:28,550 --> 01:47:26,560
for now i would uh instead of putting

2962
01:47:29,189 --> 01:47:28,560
that graphic up and thanking our patreon

2963
01:47:31,430 --> 01:47:29,199
supporters

2964
01:47:33,910 --> 01:47:31,440
i would say uh i would just like to

2965
01:47:35,430 --> 01:47:33,920
thank our patreon supporters because

2966
01:47:37,270 --> 01:47:35,440
youtube for as little as a dollar a

2967
01:47:39,109 --> 01:47:37,280
month can support our show

2968
01:47:41,350 --> 01:47:39,119
the show you are hearing no matter where

2969
01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:41,360
you're hearing or viewing it from

2970
01:47:46,390 --> 01:47:44,080
is a viewer supported show there's uh

2971
01:47:47,910 --> 01:47:46,400
several ways to support us

2972
01:47:50,229 --> 01:47:47,920
you can join patreon for as little as a

2973
01:47:52,390 --> 01:47:50,239
dollar a month i give a

2974
01:47:53,910 --> 01:47:52,400
video journal a behind-the-scenes look

2975
01:47:54,629 --> 01:47:53,920
at what's happening with the show every

2976
01:47:57,669 --> 01:47:54,639
single month

2977
01:47:59,990 --> 01:47:57,679
i'm uploading music every month

2978
01:48:02,070 --> 01:48:00,000
uh from a new album basically i'm

2979
01:48:04,950 --> 01:48:02,080
uploading the demos from a new album

2980
01:48:05,430 --> 01:48:04,960
i'm working on uh we have something

2981
01:48:08,229 --> 01:48:05,440
called

2982
01:48:10,310 --> 01:48:08,239
the mind hack project which is sort of a

2983
01:48:12,470 --> 01:48:10,320
self-help

2984
01:48:13,990 --> 01:48:12,480
system designed to help you reach your

2985
01:48:15,430 --> 01:48:14,000
goals if you like

2986
01:48:17,189 --> 01:48:15,440
self-help sort of recordings or

2987
01:48:19,030 --> 01:48:17,199
motivational speaking

2988
01:48:20,229 --> 01:48:19,040
mind hack may be for you and it includes

2989
01:48:21,910 --> 01:48:20,239
a lot of binaural

2990
01:48:24,790 --> 01:48:21,920
beats to help you get the right brain

2991
01:48:27,350 --> 01:48:24,800
state to get certain tasks done

2992
01:48:28,149 --> 01:48:27,360
i try to give as much as i can uh we

2993
01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:28,159
also

2994
01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:30,960
post things on patreon like behind the

2995
01:48:33,430 --> 01:48:32,480
scenes pictures of shows we're

2996
01:48:35,750 --> 01:48:33,440
developing or

2997
01:48:37,030 --> 01:48:35,760
upcoming guests i'll be doing some

2998
01:48:40,950 --> 01:48:37,040
writing there soon

2999
01:48:43,070 --> 01:48:40,960
so that's patreon there is also uh

3000
01:48:44,830 --> 01:48:43,080
we can accept a paypal donation at

3001
01:48:47,669 --> 01:48:44,840
truthseekershow

3002
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:47,679
gmail.com uh all you do is

3003
01:48:51,109 --> 01:48:49,840
send whatever money you'd like to send

3004
01:48:54,790 --> 01:48:51,119
to truthseeker

3005
01:48:55,830 --> 01:48:54,800
show gmail.com and make sure that you

3006
01:48:57,830 --> 01:48:55,840
add a note

3007
01:48:58,870 --> 01:48:57,840
uh with whatever you'd like to say and

3008
01:49:03,030 --> 01:48:58,880
we shout out

3009
01:49:04,390 --> 01:49:03,040
every one of those paypal donations

3010
01:49:06,229 --> 01:49:04,400
in other words you send us a paypal

3011
01:49:08,629 --> 01:49:06,239
donation and add a note and

3012
01:49:09,910 --> 01:49:08,639
whatever you'd like me to read on air we

3013
01:49:12,950 --> 01:49:09,920
do so

3014
01:49:15,189 --> 01:49:12,960
uh and then the third way financially is

3015
01:49:17,109 --> 01:49:15,199
we have super chats and super stickers

3016
01:49:19,030 --> 01:49:17,119
you can come over to the live chat

3017
01:49:20,550 --> 01:49:19,040
uh while we're doing a live broadcast

3018
01:49:23,830 --> 01:49:20,560
just search for

3019
01:49:24,550 --> 01:49:23,840
uh truth seekers on in the youtube

3020
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:24,560
search bar

3021
01:49:28,310 --> 01:49:26,159
again look for that weird guy with the

3022
01:49:29,830 --> 01:49:28,320
dark hair and the dark glasses that's me

3023
01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:29,840
stephen campbell and you'll find our

3024
01:49:33,990 --> 01:49:31,360
show you can come in the live chat

3025
01:49:34,709 --> 01:49:34,000
send a super chat send us super sticker

3026
01:49:36,390 --> 01:49:34,719
we read

3027
01:49:39,750 --> 01:49:36,400
thank and acknowledge every single

3028
01:49:41,270 --> 01:49:39,760
person that supports our show

3029
01:49:43,109 --> 01:49:41,280
the other final thing that i would like

3030
01:49:46,709 --> 01:49:43,119
to say is there's one more way

3031
01:49:49,350 --> 01:49:46,719
i realize it's a tough economy out there

3032
01:49:50,149 --> 01:49:49,360
you don't have to just have some money

3033
01:49:53,430 --> 01:49:50,159
to support us

3034
01:49:56,149 --> 01:49:53,440
like comment and

3035
01:49:58,550 --> 01:49:56,159
share if you're watching on a video

3036
01:50:00,629 --> 01:49:58,560
platform like comment share

3037
01:50:02,390 --> 01:50:00,639
and send some of these video links to

3038
01:50:02,950 --> 01:50:02,400
your friends share them on your social

3039
01:50:05,430 --> 01:50:02,960
media

3040
01:50:07,350 --> 01:50:05,440
if you're listening on a audio podcast

3041
01:50:09,669 --> 01:50:07,360
network please give us a review

3042
01:50:11,030 --> 01:50:09,679
write a review please give us five stars

3043
01:50:13,350 --> 01:50:11,040
that really will

3044
01:50:15,830 --> 01:50:13,360
help more people find us in audio

3045
01:50:17,669 --> 01:50:15,840
podcast land we're brand new to that

3046
01:50:19,669 --> 01:50:17,679
it's funny i've kind of come full circle

3047
01:50:21,430 --> 01:50:19,679
because i started with an audio show i

3048
01:50:24,470 --> 01:50:21,440
started uh with a radio

3049
01:50:26,149 --> 01:50:24,480
and podcast audio podcast show moved

3050
01:50:28,550 --> 01:50:26,159
over here to the video space

3051
01:50:29,910 --> 01:50:28,560
and and now we're kind of coming full

3052
01:50:31,910 --> 01:50:29,920
circle but now

3053
01:50:34,310 --> 01:50:31,920
we've got an incredible amount more

3054
01:50:36,790 --> 01:50:34,320
capabilities with the video streaming

3055
01:50:38,709 --> 01:50:36,800
uh it's really just more ways to enjoy

3056
01:50:42,070 --> 01:50:38,719
the show um

3057
01:50:43,990 --> 01:50:42,080
rogue status yeah and as i'm explaining

3058
01:50:45,270 --> 01:50:44,000
to the people in audio podcast lane i'm

3059
01:50:47,990 --> 01:50:45,280
taking live comments

3060
01:50:49,910 --> 01:50:48,000
from our live chat right now as we're

3061
01:50:51,510 --> 01:50:49,920
doing the show live rogue status is here

3062
01:50:52,310 --> 01:50:51,520
and thanking our guest says thanks

3063
01:50:54,709 --> 01:50:52,320
jeremy

3064
01:50:56,310 --> 01:50:54,719
respect man yeah i really i really

3065
01:51:01,350 --> 01:50:56,320
wanted to have jeremy because he's

3066
01:51:04,830 --> 01:51:03,430
really got some great insights into the

3067
01:51:09,910 --> 01:51:04,840
ufo phenomenon

3068
01:51:14,390 --> 01:51:11,669
and i'll take comments and questions

3069
01:51:17,030 --> 01:51:14,400
from our live chat right now

3070
01:51:19,270 --> 01:51:17,040
uh thomas fessler is here shout out to

3071
01:51:21,430 --> 01:51:19,280
thomas he says best ufo info is on

3072
01:51:23,030 --> 01:51:21,440
twitter period yeah there seems ufo

3073
01:51:25,910 --> 01:51:23,040
twitter there seems to be a lot of

3074
01:51:28,070 --> 01:51:25,920
people interested in ufos on twitter

3075
01:51:29,750 --> 01:51:28,080
and jeremy mcgowan chiming in in our

3076
01:51:31,350 --> 01:51:29,760
live chat says thank you for taking the

3077
01:51:32,870 --> 01:51:31,360
time to listen to me today i can't

3078
01:51:34,070 --> 01:51:32,880
reinforce the statement enough don't

3079
01:51:36,629 --> 01:51:34,080
take my word for anything

3080
01:51:38,149 --> 01:51:36,639
do your own research find your own truth

3081
01:51:39,990 --> 01:51:38,159
my opinion is worth zero

3082
01:51:41,669 --> 01:51:40,000
well i disagree i think you have

3083
01:51:42,950 --> 01:51:41,679
incredible insights i can't thank you

3084
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:42,960
enough for doing this

3085
01:51:47,189 --> 01:51:45,440
one of my favorite shows ever because we

3086
01:51:48,790 --> 01:51:47,199
really got to drill down on some of this

3087
01:51:53,109 --> 01:51:48,800
drone stuff

3088
01:51:54,629 --> 01:51:53,119
uh rogue status says any more

3089
01:51:57,350 --> 01:51:54,639
controversial stuff

3090
01:51:57,669 --> 01:51:57,360
to upload to the podcast i don't know

3091
01:51:58,950 --> 01:51:57,679
and

3092
01:52:01,109 --> 01:51:58,960
if you're talking about the recent

3093
01:52:02,950 --> 01:52:01,119
dramarama with other shows

3094
01:52:05,589 --> 01:52:02,960
largely i'm ignoring all that and

3095
01:52:08,470 --> 01:52:05,599
concentrating on expanding our show

3096
01:52:10,310 --> 01:52:08,480
and uh really really moving our show

3097
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:10,320
forward i can't believe that we've

3098
01:52:13,430 --> 01:52:12,880
suddenly we've got 14 new distribution

3099
01:52:15,589 --> 01:52:13,440
points

3100
01:52:16,629 --> 01:52:15,599
for our show 14 more destinations that

3101
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:16,639
our show gets shot

3102
01:52:22,870 --> 01:52:20,320
to for the magic technology here

3103
01:52:24,550 --> 01:52:22,880
and uh more please you'll like it's just

3104
01:52:25,910 --> 01:52:24,560
makes me feel great to know that people

3105
01:52:27,990 --> 01:52:25,920
are going to be able to

3106
01:52:30,629 --> 01:52:28,000
listen to truth seekers virtually

3107
01:52:32,629 --> 01:52:30,639
anywhere right

3108
01:52:34,629 --> 01:52:32,639
and mystic moon tarot is here and says

3109
01:52:37,030 --> 01:52:34,639
how exciting yes thank you i really

3110
01:52:39,510 --> 01:52:37,040
appreciate it

3111
01:52:41,189 --> 01:52:39,520
oh rogue status says controversial

3112
01:52:45,990 --> 01:52:41,199
equals algo non-friendly

3113
01:52:50,790 --> 01:52:48,229
i don't know uh there are some alternate

3114
01:52:52,470 --> 01:52:50,800
platforms rogue status like rumble

3115
01:52:54,310 --> 01:52:52,480
that we have a rumble account you can

3116
01:52:55,189 --> 01:52:54,320
find some shows that have uploaded to

3117
01:52:56,830 --> 01:52:55,199
rumble and d

3118
01:52:58,229 --> 01:52:56,840
live and some of these other

3119
01:53:01,750 --> 01:52:58,239
lesser-known

3120
01:53:03,669 --> 01:53:01,760
video sites or dailymotion and i

3121
01:53:05,910 --> 01:53:03,679
am going to be evaluating which one of

3122
01:53:06,709 --> 01:53:05,920
those has got the greatest potential for

3123
01:53:08,709 --> 01:53:06,719
free speech

3124
01:53:11,270 --> 01:53:08,719
and me not getting cancelled for talking

3125
01:53:12,709 --> 01:53:11,280
about a certain subject

3126
01:53:14,629 --> 01:53:12,719
and then we're going to do some shows

3127
01:53:18,149 --> 01:53:14,639
that are going to be like you know

3128
01:53:18,550 --> 01:53:18,159
to uh let's just say we're going to do

3129
01:53:22,310 --> 01:53:18,560
some

3130
01:53:24,229 --> 01:53:22,320
purposes of

3131
01:53:27,109 --> 01:53:24,239
free speech i don't like that we have to

3132
01:53:30,950 --> 01:53:27,119
avoid certain subjects so

3133
01:53:32,629 --> 01:53:30,960
i'm not going to i'm going to try

3134
01:53:34,870 --> 01:53:32,639
if if we do have a subject that i want

3135
01:53:36,470 --> 01:53:34,880
to talk about

3136
01:53:37,990 --> 01:53:36,480
for example the letter of the alphabet

3137
01:53:39,350 --> 01:53:38,000
or whatever it is

3138
01:53:41,109 --> 01:53:39,360
we'll put it on one of those alternate

3139
01:53:42,390 --> 01:53:41,119
platforms that people can consume it

3140
01:53:43,189 --> 01:53:42,400
there and then we don't have to worry

3141
01:53:45,350 --> 01:53:43,199
about

3142
01:53:47,669 --> 01:53:45,360
youtube uh deleting our channel or

3143
01:53:48,470 --> 01:53:47,679
demonetizing us or whatever the case may

3144
01:53:49,910 --> 01:53:48,480
be

3145
01:53:51,669 --> 01:53:49,920
matt godette is here and says keep up

3146
01:53:52,550 --> 01:53:51,679
with good work steven thank you i

3147
01:53:55,750 --> 01:53:52,560
appreciate your

3148
01:53:59,109 --> 01:53:55,760
your kindness and and your support yeah

3149
01:54:00,709 --> 01:53:59,119
uh so friends uh

3150
01:54:02,149 --> 01:54:00,719
burger king customer and i don't know

3151
01:54:02,709 --> 01:54:02,159
why there's somebody named burger king

3152
01:54:05,430 --> 01:54:02,719
customer

3153
01:54:05,750 --> 01:54:05,440
in my live chat but i like burger king

3154
01:54:09,750 --> 01:54:05,760
so

3155
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:09,760
it's all good they say it's 4 50 in the

3156
01:54:12,390 --> 01:54:10,480
morning here

3157
01:54:15,990 --> 01:54:12,400
time for a good burger king breakfast

3158
01:54:19,350 --> 01:54:17,990
plan d says definitely one of your top

3159
01:54:21,830 --> 01:54:19,360
10 stephen thank you

3160
01:54:23,430 --> 01:54:21,840
i i didn't know how this was going to go

3161
01:54:25,750 --> 01:54:23,440
i think jeremy really knocked it out of

3162
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:25,760
the ballpark and i'm excited about

3163
01:54:29,030 --> 01:54:27,520
uh looking at the numbers in the next

3164
01:54:30,550 --> 01:54:29,040
couple of days because i think people

3165
01:54:31,910 --> 01:54:30,560
are really going to want to hear what he

3166
01:54:33,669 --> 01:54:31,920
had to say

3167
01:54:37,510 --> 01:54:33,679
and hear this discussion it really

3168
01:54:40,390 --> 01:54:37,520
dispels a lot of myths and problems uh

3169
01:54:41,430 --> 01:54:40,400
and and that sort of thing uh mystic

3170
01:54:43,589 --> 01:54:41,440
moon tarot

3171
01:54:45,350 --> 01:54:43,599
are you also putting our show on the

3172
01:54:48,550 --> 01:54:45,360
podcast as well

3173
01:54:50,470 --> 01:54:48,560
uh well uh here's the way that it works

3174
01:54:51,430 --> 01:54:50,480
stephanie has been a guest previously on

3175
01:54:54,390 --> 01:54:51,440
our show

3176
01:54:55,270 --> 01:54:54,400
i decided just to avoid confusion and

3177
01:54:57,030 --> 01:54:55,280
the

3178
01:54:58,790 --> 01:54:57,040
incredible amount of work that it would

3179
01:55:00,709 --> 01:54:58,800
be to put every

3180
01:55:02,070 --> 01:55:00,719
previous episode up on the podcast

3181
01:55:04,310 --> 01:55:02,080
network that we were just going to do

3182
01:55:07,189 --> 01:55:04,320
the episodes going forward

3183
01:55:08,950 --> 01:55:07,199
so in other words i did two shows so far

3184
01:55:11,109 --> 01:55:08,960
since the network was up

3185
01:55:13,189 --> 01:55:11,119
and we posted both of those tonight will

3186
01:55:13,910 --> 01:55:13,199
be the third show posted to the audio

3187
01:55:17,750 --> 01:55:13,920
podcast

3188
01:55:19,510 --> 01:55:17,760
distribution network so going forward

3189
01:55:21,270 --> 01:55:19,520
you'll have the audio podcast but the

3190
01:55:21,990 --> 01:55:21,280
old shows will only be available on

3191
01:55:24,870 --> 01:55:22,000
youtube

3192
01:55:26,390 --> 01:55:24,880
and facebook for now but if you do that

3193
01:55:29,830 --> 01:55:26,400
show next week

3194
01:55:31,910 --> 01:55:29,840
certainly be

3195
01:55:33,990 --> 01:55:31,920
included in the audio podcast and be

3196
01:55:36,229 --> 01:55:34,000
available everywhere i mentioned

3197
01:55:37,589 --> 01:55:36,239
it's literally everywhere spreaker apple

3198
01:55:40,470 --> 01:55:37,599
podcasts

3199
01:55:41,990 --> 01:55:40,480
um i heart radio i'm really happy to be

3200
01:55:45,109 --> 01:55:42,000
on i heart radio because that's

3201
01:55:47,350 --> 01:55:45,119
uh where i use to find audio podcasts

3202
01:55:49,589 --> 01:55:47,360
and i've been listening to iheartradio

3203
01:55:51,589 --> 01:55:49,599
basically since it began so i'm pleased

3204
01:55:55,350 --> 01:55:51,599
to welcome them as partners with us

3205
01:55:56,629 --> 01:55:55,360
uh to help our show aj asked when did

3206
01:56:00,070 --> 01:55:56,639
you

3207
01:56:03,669 --> 01:56:00,080
haunted houses okay

3208
01:56:06,390 --> 01:56:03,679
maybe i will maybe i will six sixes

3209
01:56:07,350 --> 01:56:06,400
success is sharing jeremy mcgowan's

3210
01:56:09,830 --> 01:56:07,360
youtube channel

3211
01:56:11,109 --> 01:56:09,840
i if you're listening in audio podcast

3212
01:56:14,390 --> 01:56:11,119
land

3213
01:56:16,470 --> 01:56:14,400
uh just search for jeremy d mcgowan on

3214
01:56:19,510 --> 01:56:16,480
youtube and you will find his channel

3215
01:56:21,990 --> 01:56:19,520
if you're interested in ufos and uap

3216
01:56:23,910 --> 01:56:22,000
this phenomenon you will certainly enjoy

3217
01:56:25,030 --> 01:56:23,920
the content he creates and i certainly

3218
01:56:27,270 --> 01:56:25,040
appreciate it because

3219
01:56:29,350 --> 01:56:27,280
i sometimes i don't have two hours to

3220
01:56:30,070 --> 01:56:29,360
listen to a long-form show he does these

3221
01:56:32,629 --> 01:56:30,080
sort of

3222
01:56:33,189 --> 01:56:32,639
five and ten minute videos on each

3223
01:56:35,350 --> 01:56:33,199
subject

3224
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:35,360
they're really concise you know you get

3225
01:56:39,830 --> 01:56:37,760
in you get out you get your information

3226
01:56:41,189 --> 01:56:39,840
and i really enjoy his channel so i

3227
01:56:42,950 --> 01:56:41,199
highly recommend people go over there

3228
01:56:44,790 --> 01:56:42,960
subscribe

3229
01:56:47,030 --> 01:56:44,800
and i want to thank him again this was a

3230
01:56:49,430 --> 01:56:47,040
really fun talk

3231
01:56:51,350 --> 01:56:49,440
yeah so uh people are waving goodbye in

3232
01:56:54,950 --> 01:56:51,360
the live chat which i believe

3233
01:56:57,189 --> 01:56:54,960
is probably my cue

3234
01:56:58,229 --> 01:56:57,199
to jump out of here i'm going to bounce

3235
01:57:00,149 --> 01:56:58,239
out of here

3236
01:57:01,990 --> 01:57:00,159
i want to thank each and every one of

3237
01:57:04,790 --> 01:57:02,000
you for joining us especially you new

3238
01:57:06,790 --> 01:57:04,800
people listening in audio podcast land

3239
01:57:08,709 --> 01:57:06,800
uh you can follow me on twitter it's at

3240
01:57:09,990 --> 01:57:08,719
stevencambian you can come over to our

3241
01:57:11,990 --> 01:57:10,000
youtube channel

3242
01:57:13,109 --> 01:57:12,000
and subscribe and hit that notification

3243
01:57:15,189 --> 01:57:13,119
bell and

3244
01:57:16,709 --> 01:57:15,199
participate in the live chat you are

3245
01:57:18,709 --> 01:57:16,719
almost welcome

3246
01:57:19,750 --> 01:57:18,719
and new friends especially we love

3247
01:57:22,790 --> 01:57:19,760
making new friends

3248
01:57:23,350 --> 01:57:22,800
expanding the live chat and we would

3249
01:57:26,709 --> 01:57:23,360
love to

3250
01:57:27,430 --> 01:57:26,719
uh have you participate as i mentioned i

3251
01:57:29,589 --> 01:57:27,440
always have

3252
01:57:30,790 --> 01:57:29,599
ended the show putting up a graphic

3253
01:57:33,030 --> 01:57:30,800
thanking our patreon

3254
01:57:34,310 --> 01:57:33,040
super chat and paypal donators for their

3255
01:57:36,950 --> 01:57:34,320
support of the show

3256
01:57:38,310 --> 01:57:36,960
but because of the dead air issue i'm

3257
01:57:39,750 --> 01:57:38,320
going to have to come up with an

3258
01:57:41,589 --> 01:57:39,760
alternate solution

3259
01:57:43,750 --> 01:57:41,599
i just realized this i don't want to

3260
01:57:45,510 --> 01:57:43,760
have 30 seconds of dead air so tonight i

3261
01:57:46,790 --> 01:57:45,520
will simply say

3262
01:57:49,510 --> 01:57:46,800
thank you for your kindness your

3263
01:57:50,790 --> 01:57:49,520
generosity your support to all of our

3264
01:57:53,750 --> 01:57:50,800
super chatters

3265
01:57:55,030 --> 01:57:53,760
super sticker purchasers anybody sending

3266
01:57:57,589 --> 01:57:55,040
a paypal donation

3267
01:57:59,270 --> 01:57:57,599
or signing up for patreon for as little

3268
01:58:01,589 --> 01:57:59,280
as a dollar a month

3269
01:58:03,270 --> 01:58:01,599
it really does help the show i'm happy

3270
01:58:04,229 --> 01:58:03,280
to say that today i got three new

3271
01:58:06,390 --> 01:58:04,239
webcams

3272
01:58:08,709 --> 01:58:06,400
that's the same quality as this one i

3273
01:58:09,750 --> 01:58:08,719
got a great bargain on new webcams i

3274
01:58:11,910 --> 01:58:09,760
found this

3275
01:58:13,030 --> 01:58:11,920
company that that is selling this webcam

3276
01:58:15,830 --> 01:58:13,040
that is really really

3277
01:58:17,189 --> 01:58:15,840
great quality almost i i can't really

3278
01:58:18,950 --> 01:58:17,199
tell the difference in quality between

3279
01:58:20,070 --> 01:58:18,960
this and a very expensive logitech and

3280
01:58:22,950 --> 01:58:20,080
these were like

3281
01:58:24,470 --> 01:58:22,960
13 so i got a bunch of them and i'm

3282
01:58:26,229 --> 01:58:24,480
going to be working on the multi-camera

3283
01:58:27,750 --> 01:58:26,239
setup and we will get back to

3284
01:58:30,629 --> 01:58:27,760
the final bit of business that i will

3285
01:58:32,070 --> 01:58:30,639
mention is that i did promise genocide

3286
01:58:34,790 --> 01:58:32,080
that i would have slides okay

3287
01:58:35,189 --> 01:58:34,800
genocide is he's killing me he's one of

3288
01:58:39,270 --> 01:58:35,199
our

3289
01:58:40,310 --> 01:58:39,280
some money and he wants to see slides on

3290
01:58:42,390 --> 01:58:40,320
our show but this is going to be a

3291
01:58:44,950 --> 01:58:42,400
problem for audio podcast language

3292
01:58:46,470 --> 01:58:44,960
but i'm going to do it okay i just

3293
01:58:48,149 --> 01:58:46,480
didn't get to it because i have

3294
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:48,159
a lot of stuff going on hopefully

3295
01:58:51,030 --> 01:58:50,320
sometime this week we'll have slides

3296
01:58:54,550 --> 01:58:51,040
just like

3297
01:58:56,470 --> 01:58:54,560
uh you know genocide's favorite content

3298
01:58:58,550 --> 01:58:56,480
creator david wilcock who by the way

3299
01:59:01,990 --> 01:58:58,560
would look much more believable

3300
01:59:03,750 --> 01:59:02,000
and cooler with the mustache

3301
01:59:05,430 --> 01:59:03,760
yeah this is the things that our

3302
01:59:06,709 --> 01:59:05,440
listeners do to me they send me money

3303
01:59:08,870 --> 01:59:06,719
and then they demand things

3304
01:59:10,470 --> 01:59:08,880
genocide demand slides he came here and

3305
01:59:11,669 --> 01:59:10,480
he's like where's the slides i was

3306
01:59:14,229 --> 01:59:11,679
promised slides

3307
01:59:14,950 --> 01:59:14,239
you said there'd be slides i did i did i

3308
01:59:18,870 --> 01:59:14,960
got i

3309
01:59:20,390 --> 01:59:18,880
didn't have time to make any slides to

3310
01:59:22,229 --> 01:59:20,400
talk about anything

3311
01:59:24,790 --> 01:59:22,239
but i promise that we will do that just

3312
01:59:27,750 --> 01:59:24,800
for genocide big supporter of the show

3313
01:59:29,430 --> 01:59:27,760
uh yeah genocide is hearing live chat

3314
01:59:30,870 --> 01:59:29,440
says david wilcock would look so cool

3315
01:59:33,350 --> 01:59:30,880
with the mustache

3316
01:59:34,229 --> 01:59:33,360
and be more believable too i i agree

3317
01:59:36,390 --> 01:59:34,239
with them

3318
01:59:38,229 --> 01:59:36,400
yeah and he's asking for slides again so

3319
01:59:39,990 --> 01:59:38,239
he's here busting my balls he wants the

3320
01:59:41,270 --> 01:59:40,000
slides i'll do some kind of slide

3321
01:59:44,149 --> 01:59:41,280
presentation

3322
01:59:45,669 --> 01:59:44,159
just just for you genocide it's just for

3323
01:59:47,189 --> 01:59:45,679
you because you're a big supporter of

3324
01:59:48,870 --> 01:59:47,199
the show and we appreciate your kindness

3325
01:59:50,390 --> 01:59:48,880
your generosity and support

3326
01:59:51,910 --> 01:59:50,400
and the kindness and generosity and

3327
01:59:54,310 --> 01:59:51,920
support of all you

3328
01:59:54,950 --> 01:59:54,320
super chatters paypal donators super

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sticker

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purchasers and patreon supporters

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boy uh yeah i'm sorry that i i have not

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completed uh we're gonna do sort of like

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a video

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and and music to thank the people so

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that it doesn't turn into dead air

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me just showing a graphic on the podcast

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there's little adjustments that i need

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to make

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but i'm i'm feeling real good about the

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audio podcast like i said i think it's

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14 distribution points that we're going

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to so you really really should be able

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to get the podcast

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in audio form anywhere you look for your

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podcasts

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um i want to thank our guest tonight uh

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jeremy mcgowan

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it was an interesting conversation i

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want to thank all of you who came here

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and participated in the live chat we had

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some excellent comments and questions

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and participation from the live chat

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i truly appreciate that i'm always happy

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friends

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i'm always happy when there's an

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audience and i'm

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thankful that you can come here tonight

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and be a part of mine

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uh until next time friends my name is

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stephen campion good night and god bless

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[Music]

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so

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[Music]

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so

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]